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evangeesman#8969: How beefy does your computer need to be to run riffusion locally? I have an iMac from 2020 with 16gb ram and an i5 3.4ghz with an amd graphics card, need to check which one tho
matteo101man#6162: macs are weird
matteo101man#6162: but that is too vague still
norm#1888: I think it's more a matter of how much you can do. For example, I can run it on a super old (Windows) laptop that was passed down from a friend, but I can only generate 10 second clips
matteo101man#6162: I believe with amd cards you'd have to take a look at this
https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/ww436j/howto_stable_diffusion_on_an_amd_gpu/
If it even works the same with macs
evangeesman#8969: I know with diffusion bee you need an M1 Mac or that’s what I’ve been told
evangeesman#8969: Or wait
evangeesman#8969: You need to be on the most recent os
evangeesman#8969: I’m still on mojave
Orcine#2105: a channel to share prompts would be very useful
Captain Cripple#0657: Is there an img2img function that i can generate cover music with?
hulla#5846: Hello the web is overfull of text to image /image to image or tons of other AI you have more than the choice stable diffusion / craiyon / midjourney or some other more underground on huggingface
__something#0001: does riffusion has something like stable diffusion's textual inversion? Curious if I can supply spectograms of my playlist
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__something#0001: so it's more biased towards a specific genre
TecnoWorld#3509: is there a stand alone GUI for riffusion, to which you can give the images and convert them into music?
Captain Cripple#0657: No I meant music2music
Captain Cripple#0657: I framed that badly
TecnoWorld#3509: I don't use A1111, but other similar systems and I wouldn't like to set up A1111 just for this
hulla#5846: just found this " text to sound " on huggingface very very impressive he can do " everything " https://huggingface.co/spaces/haoheliu/audioldm-text-to-audio-generation
hulla#5846: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1070737572986372226/penguins_on_the_ice_floe_1.wav,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1070737573355454474/new_york_building_in_fire.wav,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1070737573720363070/cow_boys_and_indians_fighting_in_a_western.wav
hulla#5846: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1070747751693955122/at_the_punk_rock_bar.wav
Santiago クブシュ#5998: A fart music from AudioLDM https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1070753719630700594/tmpkqzobndg.wav
Santiago クブシュ#5998: A talking dog https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1070757398052089926/tmp0y0w869s.wav
cadaeic#6767: I've put the AudioLDM stuff in a colab notebook so you don't have to wait for the spaces! <https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1djoA4oPP1BEyhl6_pDaROSPoOCGnf9Xo>
damir#7026: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/content/AudioLDM'
/content
/content/AudioLDM
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Looks like it works...
cadaeic#6767: oh yeah, that's part of the code where I squish both the model loading and the generation into one cell, so you can rerun the cell and do more generation without needing to load the model every time
damir#7026: Is it possible to use my own GPU ?
cadaeic#6767: you sure can!
the github has instructions on how to use the model locally using their script - <https://github.com/haoheliu/AudioLDM>
I've developed this ipynb file locally and ran it in Visual Studio Code running Jupyter notebooks, if you know how to do that you could download the ipynb file from my colab notebook
don't think an easier, single click install option with a gui exists yet, because this was released... this morning lol, I just wanted to be the first to get a colab notebook up and running XPPPP
damir#7026: Thanks! Looking forward to a loads of fun!
damir#7026: git clone git@github.com:haoheliu/AudioLDM.git
Cloning into 'AudioLDM'...
Warning: Permanently added the ECDSA host key for IP address '140.82.112.3' to the list of known hosts.
git@github.com: Permission denied (publickey).
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fatal: Could not read from remote repository.
Please make sure you have the correct access rights
and the repository exists.
cadaeic#6767: try ``git clone https://github.com/haoheliu/AudioLDM.git``
damir#7026: Yipe, just did that! came here to say the same thing... looks like it is working !!
cadaeic#6767: the download link they also offer for the ckpt didn't work programmatically for me - worked when I accessed it on browser but not in code, so in the colab I steal the ckpt from the huggingface space lol
damir#7026: 🙂 will figure that one out the ckpt/audioldm-s-full.ckpt will take 2h for me to download.
cadaeic#6767: oooof
damir#7026: HOORAY! IT WORKED! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1070918432071098368/the_holiest_burp_the_world_has_ever_witnessed_2036564587_04_06_30_0.wav
cadaeic#6767: i regret that i am at work and can't actually listen to that because that is a beautiful title
damir#7026: hahaha! no worries, I will post more if I think of something 🙂
damir#7026: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1070919801083527208/the_tune_from_a_burp_and_fart_choir_0.wav
damir#7026: Yipe, sounds right! Bluegrass solo played on elastic band! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1070922294005874748/bluegrass_solo_played_on_elastic_band_0.wav
damir#7026: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1070932049063596064/laughing_with_a_french_accent_0.wav
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damir#7026: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1070933037367427192/noise_that_makes_people_smell_the_sandalwood_scent_in_their_room_0.wav
tugen#7971: "here is a powerful AI... what do you ask of me" ---- "make a burp and fart choir" LOL
cadaeic#6767: this is beautiful.
Captain Cripple#0657: Can any ai generate music with music as input yet? So we can generate covers
damir#7026: Elon Musk has warned us....
damir#7026: Not sure what you are asking. Any AI? no. Generate covers? not sure what you mean. Is it good enough to generate covers - no. Can you get a nice long song with AI? yes, but not with riffusion. Can it be a cover-song? See this, and let us know what you think:
https://mpost.io/top-5-ai-musicaudio-generators-to-create-royalty-free-tracks/
damir#7026: What you can do is use riffusion for either the lower quality sound samples or to get 10-15 second ideas. Also, the music it generates is biased with Indian sound samples (probably due to database it used or origin of developers?). For example "Intelligent Dance Music" is its own genre, and it does not sound Indian... but it does with riffusion.
damir#7026: Actually, all music you generate is going to be biased by the train-set of samples, so you'd probably need a separate model for each music genre instead of an universal one...
damir#7026: Yeah, exactly what I said... a cultural bias... due to a lack of training samples. The project would cost 14mil at least, like it did for GPT-3 to be able to generate coherent and OK-quality composing. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1071077999992119356/church_choir_0.wav
damir#7026: test 2 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1071079147184594984/church_choir_singing_0.wav
matteo101man#6162: indian?
norm#1888: All the full song generation models that I've seen, like the ones in this list, are not licensed for commercial use and thus can't (or shouldn't) be uploaded to YouTube. Are there any publicly available models that are licensed for commercial use?
[PRINCESS MISTY]#0003: plz help
[PRINCESS MISTY]#0003: i ran out of idea for megalovania rips
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Indrid Cold#4884: hi
EulerLagrange#3917: Hey, I've been experimenting with riffusion today and out of nowhere it made this nice piece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFNM-Y0lt6A
MintOctopus#8867: Hey I sense a collab opp here...I like it a lot, but think it could be augmented with some restructuring of some of the core loops. Like what i've been up to. If you want me to try that with this, happy to.
MintOctopus#8867: that said it stands on it's own well as a more pure rep of riffusion
EulerLagrange#3917: Started a thread.
Indrid Cold#4884: is there any way I can download the music i make in the web?
virt#1371: https://soundcloud.com/virtjk/neurochip-01-buzz-in-the-grotto and https://soundcloud.com/virtjk/neurochip-02-a-cargo-of-finer-fineries hi, just posted these -- hopefully hayk sees it too! a few days ago i figured out a way to make covers or even use riffusion as a synth in new original music... you start with a chiptune as an input, and then you prompt with what "real" instruments it's supposed to have, and ... it makes it so
TecnoWorld#3509: this is very interesting, I'd love a guide to get where you are now. But first I'd like to know the workflow to create a spectrogram and then creating a music from it. Is it possible to do that without A1111 but using other SD UIs?
MintOctopus#8867: Cool technique you've come up with here!
virt#1371: had to get some sleep.. now back to work! to get spectrogram images, you need only this command line utility: https://github.com/chavinlo/riffusion-manipulation then you run: *python3 file2img.py -i omgwtf.mp3 -o omgwtf-slices* and batch-render through the resulting directory full of images using your tool or script of choice. then convert the processed images back to .wav or .mp3 files through either the reverse commandline process or A1111's riffusion extension (that's what the special Riffusion tab is for)
virt#1371: works through normal img2img on individual 5sec clips without batching too, but what's the fun in that https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1071865454383091803/bocc-orig.wav,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1071865454764765245/bocc-orig_00.png,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1071865455054180483/bocc-output_00.wav,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1071865455595237376/bocc-output_00.png
EulerLagrange#3917: Started a thread.
hulla#5846: hello my last vidéo " are Craiyon AI better to paint the poor ? " https://youtu.be/GSNpjJq1ZR8
TecnoWorld#3509: Will you make a guide for your complete workflow? Thanks
virt#1371: of course! i spent all weekend playing with it and refining prompts.. i'll start writing it down and getting screenshots tonight.
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virt#1371: here are some more, in the meantime, put through the same process.... raw vgm/chiptune in, this out https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1072219069199171635/specter_hub_AI.mp3,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1072219069492756530/what_if_septemburg_b_was_real.mp3
TecnoWorld#3509: I really like specter hub!
matteo101man#6162: @virt that’s pretty cool bud
Lucas18#7837: Is there any way of doing audio to audio instead of riffusion playground? I was used to huggingfaces but now is down
EulerLagrange#3917: @virt amazing work !
Lucas18#7837: I wanna generate audio to audio so bad🥲
virt#1371: working on a batch script and a guide rn. meanwhile here's a couple more. should clearly show the difference between the original chip version and the "OMFG IT'S MAGIC" version https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1072375408474988564/incident_zero_crossfade.mp3,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1072375408856682496/reconstruct_crossfade.mp3
matteo101man#6162: yea just do locally
Null0#2828: Is it really 1 click install?I just installed the extension but I'm almost certain I need a chpt or something too
Vic Lewis#8770: is there a prompt guide for riffusion out there?
Vic Lewis#8770: audio2audio is amazing but it's quite difficult to figure out what keywords the CLIP model can actually recognise
EulerLagrange#3917: here is a lofi track that I finally pieced together https://youtu.be/I1UMMR2jsIw
hulla#5846: hello still no other channel for dropping my little things then https://youtu.be/XXLi0mjHFhw
yamete#1992: overrated
yamete#1992: trash ai
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COMEHU#2094: try the new model, craiyon got updated like 20 minutes ago
hulla#5846: hehe i am already on their new discord
matteo101man#6162: I dont' get it
matteo101man#6162: it looks bad
matteo101man#6162: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5NUv-XSCyI
matteo101man#6162: Method used to make this is very interesting
hevalkinch#6394: they just used AI for the voice though right
matteo101man#6162: Yeah
EulerLagrange#3917: That's a nice exploit tough
hevalkinch#6394: whats the exploit? its just an AI designed for doing vocals
Curiosity'sEdge#3859: Sounds good!
Lobo, King of Rats#1357: https://tenor.com/view/angry-ping-pissed-kill-xd-gif-13919523
JL#1976: :Twitter: **Excited to announce first Twitter Space on AI music!**
🎺 **Will robots become the next Mozarts? **
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https://twitter.com/RockyBasilisk/status/1623417830061342721?s=20&t=3oXw3P_poRglbDjwy4DGdg
:partyfrog:**Join us and discuss on 10th of February on Twitter at:**
11:00 AM EST
8:00 AM PST
4:00 PM UTC
hulla#5846: hello sad news the old Craiyon AI is DEAD https://youtu.be/BYnYmkAoCVY
JL#1976: @everyone Music AI twitter space has begun! 🎺 https://t.co/1WYrbjvWn7 Feel free to join! 🔥
nick123#6206: May I ask what will be discussed
JL#1976: We have @JeniaJitsev on
JL#1976: To answer some questions about future of AI music. People will also be able to ask questions.
nick123#6206: Oh wow
nick123#6206: Okay
GeekyGhost#3093: I've been doing weird stuff with riffusion lol.
GeekyGhost#3093: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1073636444989575178/2023-02-08-155624657.mp4
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GeekyGhost#3093: Music, art, and science are the programming language of the universe.
GeekyGhost#3093: I can't figure out how to chat on the twitter space lol
GeekyGhost#3093: Well... think about it, the music we listen IS digital unless we're at a live acoustic performance. The art we see IS digital, so these truths mean that since natural language lead to code and etc that creates these digital versions of music art and etc. Then a natural language model should in theory be capable of everything, because natural language technically already does everything. Like Coding is a language built from natural language. As a derivative language it's part of the language. In a digital sense natural language is the language of creation right?
PuffaloPhil#4861: I am high enough right now that I believe you man, and I dig this video and music loop you've discovered on your journey!
GeekyGhost#3093: Thanks 🙂 lol I call it video 42, I've incorporated all of the inherently universal symbology that humanity has continued revering and used the same prompts that generated the images to generate the music. All the settings were tweaked to 42 lol.
GeekyGhost#3093: It's something that would never have existed without this exact process and thats really cool lol.
PuffaloPhil#4861: it would be cool if the prompts were subtitles or integrated into the video somehow as the textual component seems important to the cosmology you're describing!
GeekyGhost#3093: For now because it's new and everyone wants to know how it works. Eventually though, someones going to come across this video with no context and they'll determine their own meaning and it could inspire them in some way. And I think that's it's an interesting parallel to consider lol. Drop little seeds and let their own sense of self define what it should grow into.
GeekyGhost#3093: Proof of concept of this is the Forensic Artistry research that made the news. I studied forensic science a bit and then started recreating celebrities with no base image or their name or anything referencing them, just generic descriptors. I showed a group how I did it, and then it grew and expanded and it was cool to follow the different developers and see how they ran with it.
GeekyGhost#3093: well forensic artistry not really the science portion.
GeekyGhost#3093: I couldn't figure out twitter space lol, sorry,
JL#1976: Yeah, it's tricky. To speak there you have to use the mobile version of the Twitter app. With web version, you can only listen.
JL#1976: https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1OdKrzeaBvlKX Recording of first Music AI twitter space! 🥁 🎸 🎷
hevalkinch#6394: Thanks for putting on such a cool space and for all the new followers https://soundcloud.com/hevalkinch
[PRINCESS MISTY]#0003: guys
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[PRINCESS MISTY]#0003: i told you not to place my alien music in my human music
[PRINCESS MISTY]#0003: 'BEAM INFO THRO YOUTUBE' my brain
[PRINCESS MISTY]#0003: 'NEVER LEAVE HOME'
[PRINCESS MISTY]#0003: 'STAY HOME THSI IS NOT A DRILL'
[PRINCESS MISTY]#0003: XD
[PRINCESS MISTY]#0003: D
[PRINCESS MISTY]#0003: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyLKKSR636U
GeekyGhost#3093: For you guys working on this. I promise you we all care about the music as much as the art and the language models. We understand the complexity of it all, well some do, to varying degrees I think we all do lol. It's appreciated, many are still learning how to use everything, figuring out what's okay to use. I mean it's a mine field out there on all fronts and you guys probably have it far worse than users. Some of us are doing what we can to show off stuff. It's harder with music because it's important the work match the music or its all for naught I think. I'm weird though. It's starting, just slowly. There's a few teams doing different things. I'm following you guys the most though because, I mean... Spectrograms are fascinating, and it's a whole new medium to paint in and explore lol. Also, I've wonder what would happen If I used Spectrograms Nasa released on their sites and etc. What they would produce. Or am I just assuming they have them 🤔. That would be interesting. Anyways, just listening in I heard you guys when you said you weren't sure if anyone was really into it. Music just feels more important and more dangerous for a lot so it becomes weird for different reasons I think. I'm just me, I'm only really speaking for me, people think I have good insight sometimes, so this seemed like a good point to share it. You guys are appreciated.
Prady#4766: Started a thread.
virt#1371: hi, documenting the process keeps changing as i find new tools! as of now the ez method is:
- run the streamlit app that comes with riffusion...
- import wave of chiptune, MIDI render, or other minimal synth waveform
- very low denoise (<4), very low guidance (2~7?) with a wishful-thinking prompt
- render the whole track once you have a nice seed
- stereo mix (optional but great): change a word or two in the prompt or increment the seed and render again and pan these fraternal twins left and right in a wave editor of your choice. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1074074754434215966/lostatlantis_ym2608_crossfade_to_ai.mp3
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virt#1371: *"A deeply funky synth-disco track from 1979 featuring rhodes and clav with live strings and tight drums and deep slap-bass, top ten retro night tracks playlist"* was my prompt for this one. 🤯
JL#1976: Pinned a message.
hulla#5846: hello still no random/self promo or something else on this discord ? ok then my last video https://youtu.be/4-rlco3PLcM
Lucas18#7837: Would be pretty interesting a self_promo tab
matteo101man#6162: I wish more people messed with training
Vic Lewis#8770: I’m trying out fine-tuning the whole model but it’s quite slow
Vic Lewis#8770: Did you try LoRA?
matteo101man#6162: LoRAs are still relatively new to me, so not yet
matteo101man#6162: Just old fashioned dreambooths
matteo101man#6162: Once I figure out how to train LoRA though maybe I’ll give it a shot
matteo101man#6162: Anyway you can speed up your training if you use the smaller riffusion model
EulerLagrange#3917: Hey there, I've been getting some luck with vocal jazz. It sounds better than I originally thought https://youtu.be/UtHwUTqoqMQ
matteo101man#6162: @EulerLagrange Did you use anything but the base model?
EulerLagrange#3917: Yeah I only used the webapp. I did use some coffee and patience to find a good section
matteo101man#6162: Gotcha
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EulerLagrange#3917: What I kinda noticed it that I needed to wait for like 15min for the generations to start becoming nice
matteo101man#6162: I don't want to put you down, because you've made some pretty good things before, but idk about this one buddy
matteo101man#6162: at least being jazz
matteo101man#6162: I think it might just be the artifacts though, some of the vocals are pretty neat for a few seconds though
matteo101man#6162: I think putting 1970s in the prompt actually helps with vocals a little though, at least on one of my models i dreamboothed it made vocals more common and more coherent for some reason
EulerLagrange#3917: It's I am experimenting with it 🙂
Yeah sometimes it rather sounds that's the singer is about to vomit
Thank for the tip, I didn't know that 1970s thing in the prompt
EulerLagrange#3917: can you generate the vocal separately from the background track with your model ?
matteo101man#6162: I haven't tried it so I'm unsure
matteo101man#6162: but I wouldn't think it would work too well
matteo101man#6162: as I trained with vocals and music
EulerLagrange#3917: I kinda feel completely depending on the model's good will to produce and place vocals at the right places
EulerLagrange#3917: sometime it ruins a bit the generation when you couple that with the artefacts
matteo101man#6162: I think I'll try messing with LoRA today
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matteo101man#6162: 👎 mission failed
matteo101man#6162: i think i will just extract lora from model instead
matteo101man#6162: that did the trick
hulla#5846: hello a new " score to music" on hugging face https://huggingface.co/spaces/AnonymousForSubmission/Graphic_Score_and_Audio
zeetree#3517: Hello! I am new to riffusion (and generative deep learning in general), but I am looking to experiment with fine tuning riffusion for audio inpainting. The specific task I am trying to accomplish is given an audio backtrack (such as a snippet of a song with the vocals / melody removed, or simply a sample of drums, keys, and bass), generate a melodic line to "paint" into the input audio conditioned on a text prompt. After doing some looking around, it looks like riffusion is not directly compatible with inpainting from an audio input. So my two ideas are to either fine-tune stable diffusion inpainting (https://huggingface.co/runwayml/stable-diffusion-inpainting) for audio (in a sense, recreate riffusion for the inpainting task), or to try using the incomplete audio input as the seed image in the riffusion pipeline, and then fine-tune with LoRA or dreambooth. I would greatly appreciate any tips on if something like this has already done that I could reference, or reccomendations on which approach I should take. Thank you!
nick123#6206: has anyone figured out how to interpolate 2 audio clips?
naytheyounay#2314: Not me.
Prady#4766: Can you just upload an image as well or it has to be hand drawn. Need to read through the documentation though
hulla#5846: hello on the page you can " hand draw" but it is not really good
Can't Let Hamster#0947: how many gigabytes of video memory does this neural network need?
Roi20100#1816: aaa ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
draflier#7492: hi all,
was wondering if it is possible to run riffussion with the 3070
draflier#7492: gtx3070*
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JL#1976: Could we combine this with Riffusion? https://youtu.be/TnMYOuc0elc?t=208 insane vocals
Ковырялов#6511: hi guys, where can i find python code for converting spectrogram images (created by riffusion model in my fork) to wav files?
Prady#4766: Started a thread.
Prady#4766: Is there a prompt guide or best practices for riffusion that one can follow ?
EulerLagrange#3917: Hey there, check out this track that a friend of mine made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_R25QWFNyU
speedyaf#2522: while using cli.py to batch convert audio, its converting them into spectrograms with blue (like below). In riffusion its always greyscale. is that normal? or will this mess up training https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1076363186313371648/test_0_start_0_ms_dur_5120_ms.jpg
speedyaf#2522: turns out this is what it looks like in stereo, setting the conversion to mono will result in a greyscale png
qpdv#1995: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1076435083365449828/Screenshot_2023-02-17-22-46-43-553-edit_org.mozilla.firefox.jpg
noraleader#8707: seems to be "suck it and see". decade tags are valid "1940's" artist tags, when they work, are valid, but it seems like the training was an eclectic catalogue, if you're familiar with an artist you may find some of their works scanned and not others from the sound. adjectives and experimental language (the parsing seems pretty extensive) work well. personally i'd welcome any comments with insight beyond this. i think i read somewhere the database was trained by an indian team???? eg. i get a lot of handdrum sounds with "dub" and not too much of anything actually dub. thank god there's 40's era in the database because there's no skinny puppy, so you can tell it's gonna take some tolerance.
since the engine is trying to produce music, it will use generalise musical tropes with the specific ones you tag, i have been unsuccessful at negating any tags or using the described language to reduce anything in volume eg. (snare:0.9) just makes more snares. if you use a vocal style, the tag words will often be shaped. i've been putting phrases in quotes but they're not always rendered in full. riffusion seems to try to make all the frequency bands speak.
noraleader#8707: just to go over that again, despite being cointelpro like all distributed music, skinny puppy were the only thing anyone intelligent listened to or talked about for a couple decades, but you don't remember because you don't care how MK'ed you are in this life. this entire "music in your life" thing all starts and ends down at the masonic lodge kiddos.
Delgato#8606: anyone around? stuck in the install
Delgato#8606: sadface
virt#1371: wait for the crossfade back to the 8-bit source version. it's pretty wild. i started a guide for how to remix timbres in place like this: https://github.com/virtjk/neurochip you don't need a whole complicated song. i'm just throwing my hardest work at it to find the limits. i'll update it later with more tests, grids, and such, to document the settings more thoroughly! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1076758978010288218/just_a_minuet_crossfade.mp3,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1076758978354237481/plasmatextor_crossfade.mp3,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1076758978748485693/image.png
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virt#1371: (i just took that pic off google image search cuz it's funny, i didn't make it, just wanted to illustrate what's actually happening here)
hulla#5846: hello another super production Donne with the now defunct craiyon V1 and DALL-E Mini https://youtu.be/QWlYvdbwVnA
noraleader#8707: me too. torchaudio couldn't be found isntalled it manually, now it can't locate something "dacite server". wanna play also.
Semi#2995: guys I have an issue
Semi#2995: OSError: libc10_cuda.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Semi#2995: Trying to run it with CPU, digitalocean vps
Semi#2995: already 24 hours on it, just got headache from this error, tried a lot of things already
Prady#4766: Started a thread.
Zkittlezz#4093: 📍Milan Producer📍✅ I'm 19 years old and I try to make it with music like you all think, 🎹I would be very grateful if you would check out my latest production❤️ (you won't regret listening)
https://youtu.be/CPBSJehKAug
EulerLagrange#3917: @hulla Is it weird if I somehow enjoy your beaver videos ?
hulla#5846: hello no problem do what you want 3O views for the last one and already 3 like
EulerLagrange#3917: you've got one more now 🙂
hulla#5846: hehe
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EulerLagrange#3917: at least I wont lack the topic of my tonight nightmare haha
hulla#5846: it is not the more weird i have do
EulerLagrange#3917: which one is it then ?
hulla#5846: and i hope you sleep well
hulla#5846: look the channel and chose yourself i don t know
EulerLagrange#3917: I love how you always find a weirdly casual video title until beaver comes in
nic.halls#5959: yu guys talk in here? 😮
EulerLagrange#3917: Hey there we released another atmospheric (lofi-ish) track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYt9CXCZwH4
kenna#5163: If I want to build a video gradient video between two video/pictures, what AI tool should I use?
wedgeewoo#7793: has anyone used controlnet yet for riffusion? ive been messing with it and it works alright but maybe someone else figured out a good workflow
wedgeewoo#7793: got some half decent results using asymmetrical tiling, controlnet(segmentation) and variation seeds. I also made a spectrogram of a 93.75 bpm beat which would the tempo if a 4/4 bar is played for 5120ms. i used this for the controlnet image https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1078121963152744529/2023-02-22_17-08-06_joined.wav,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1078121963567972394/kicktest_1.png
hypereikon#4525: oh please explain how ur using controlnet 😲
wedgeewoo#7793: lol just did but to be honest i dont think im using it correctly. I just want to use it to get my generations following a tempo of 93.75, to create seamless loops of itself
wedgeewoo#7793: control net feels like cheating https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1078193280807862323/2023-02-22_21-54-28_joined.wav
wedgeewoo#7793: heres the settings if you want to mess around https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1078236056207499295/seamless_settings.png,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1078236056463360060/seamless_settings2.png,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1078236056752754729/seamless_settings3.png,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1078236057063137290/seamless_settings4.png
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dent#5397: Anyone successfully do a timbre transfer yet? trying to find the best settings to do so
dent#5397: holy crap think i got it
dent#5397: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1078281671566180392/Lekarna_Osadni.m4a
dent#5397: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1078281684925038652/20230223124526--1b205ba7fbb9bb9805bd795c5464ad68611118cd2.0-Trumpet_solo-0.mp3
dent#5397: just had to put very low denoising strength
dent#5397: prompt was "trumpet solo"
BennyBoy99#0954: everyone check this outtt-- thought it was kind of cool the jazz world is tapping into AI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYLBTT5wL5o
qpdv#1995: help wen hd
qpdv#1995: whoevver creates hd music like this first, is going to be rich af
hulla#5846: Hello a nice little AI who can cut all song and give you part of it https://huggingface.co/spaces/fabiogra/music-splitter
hulla#5846: and yes another video https://youtu.be/lRIs_kTMHFI
dent#5397: Google done did it
dent#5397: https://google-research.github.io/seanet/musiclm/examples/
qpdv#1995: Not quite yet there. I mean studio quality stuff
DJ Scythe#1328: Link is now 404?
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hulla#5846: i haven't cheked but it is Hugging face people do what they want with it sometime they upgrade it or work on a bug just wait a little i think
DJ Scythe#1328: Unrelated, but has anyone had success getting some solid Aggrotech, Hard Industrial, or Witch House generated yet? 🙂
hulla#5846: test- this link for a result https://huggingface.co/spaces/Fr33d0m21/Music_Splitter
DJ Scythe#1328: Ah, that works. Not sure how it's different from demucs, though?
hulla#5846: i think it is the same or a clone of it
DJ Scythe#1328: yeah the abstract links to the demucs whitepaper
DJ Scythe#1328: i prefer running it locally tbh
dent#5397: Sounds like a job for fine tuning
dent#5397: I still can’t get over how cool it is you can do a timbre transfer
dent#5397: Someone should turn a multitrack acapella of themselves into a full band already!
dent#5397: Or I’ll beat you to it
wedgeewoo#7793: got any artists in mind for witch house? I could attempt to do so later
virt#1371: sup @dent GMTA, i've been doing low-denoise timbre transfers from chiptune and midi music for a little over a month; it's become my nightly obsession, as i have a ton of my own compositions to start with... so i'm honing my technique on those, writing up notes and guides as i go... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1078806745377415208/shopthis_crossfade.mp3
virt#1371: oh and this from last night. started as midi+soundfont. check out the choir aahs (which were < 1 sec sample loops in the original) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1078810244689436714/docs_theme.mp3
noraleader#8707: rofl music isn't worth money you don't know the secret handshake.
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qpdv#1995: Not anymore.
qpdv#1995: I know all about the music industry
qpdv#1995: That's why everything I've ever made I've released for free
virt#1371: same. my plan's to open source virtbot 5000 or whatever, then teach people how to make their own and collab with / learn from mine
qpdv#1995: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhy6MQ6Yh0c
noraleader#8707: in dust reality.. yeah i made vst early on and got my ass kicked by a bunch of gnarly masons in the music industry, because that's all anyone ever listens to.
qpdv#1995: Needle in the hay, brother
qpdv#1995: Nice making a vst tho
qpdv#1995: Which one i might've used it
noraleader#8707: hundreds. xoxos.
noraleader#8707: don't worry, i'm not supposed ot be famous. i won the second DC. the DC was made by a guy named tolga. he made it purely to publicise my work.
virt#1371: haha my vst dev-dar went off with you. it's also kvr-dar
noraleader#8707: i was one of the more visible proponents of egalitarian culture, synergy et c. they took folks out slow and greasy.
qpdv#1995: Yeah that's what happens
qpdv#1995: Same thing walmart does to mom n pop shops
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qpdv#1995: Lol
qpdv#1995: I coulda told u that years ago
qpdv#1995: But hey it was fun right?
qpdv#1995: Creating
qpdv#1995: At least u got that
noraleader#8707: i had an optic implant removed in a parking lot outside LAX before my emergency flight out of the u.s. for stalking. my emergency passport was guarantored by my classmate and congresswoman, gabrielle giffords. a year later, she was shot in the head.
qpdv#1995: That's how i feel about music. It was fun making it. Don't care if it ever made me famous or rich (it did not)
qpdv#1995: But now i have Tinnitus
qpdv#1995: I can't spend hours/days making music anymore
qpdv#1995: Which is why i like the idea of riffusion
qpdv#1995: And googleLM
qpdv#1995: New, faster ways of making music
qpdv#1995: More advanced
qpdv#1995: More interesting
qpdv#1995: I don't wanna take humans out of the equation
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qpdv#1995: But i think it'll happen too
noraleader#8707: i'm not sure my posts ar evisible. i intended to give advice for treating tinnitus but i got a message saying the post is blocked.
noraleader#8707: try again... physically pump your ears with your finger each morning to ge tthe gunk out... i said g**k, a racial epithet..
qpdv#1995: I've done that
qpdv#1995: This is permanent
qpdv#1995: I've tried everything
qpdv#1995: It's been uh
qpdv#1995: Like
qpdv#1995: March of last year
qpdv#1995: It was really bad at first
qpdv#1995: Fuckin electric crickets in my head and every sound literally hurt
qpdv#1995: It was hyperacusis and Tinnitus
noraleader#8707: oh yeah it never goes away, well... tbh after years, i've had a few quiet moments. but i got to know tinnitus after several years of writing oscillators...
qpdv#1995: Now it's just mild Tinnitus
qpdv#1995: Yeah lol
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qpdv#1995: Lmao
qpdv#1995: That high pitched biology
qpdv#1995: Lmao
qpdv#1995: I got kicked
qpdv#1995: For saying BS
noraleader#8707: it's important to let young people know.... you do shti, shti hapens...
qpdv#1995: Yeah
qpdv#1995: It happened to me after a couole weeks working non-stop on music. Like literally 8-10b hours a day
qpdv#1995: It just never went away after that
noraleader#8707: tbh i'm a professional chainsaw operator now, so i don't give a single fcku my ears are ringin as fcku
qpdv#1995: I was sure i was invincible until then
qpdv#1995: Now i know my own mortality. Thanks Tinnitus
qpdv#1995: Lol
qpdv#1995: Yeah
qpdv#1995: The sound doesn't bother me anymore
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qpdv#1995: It actually helps me sleep
qpdv#1995: It's comforting in a weird way
qpdv#1995: Yep I'm in reality
qpdv#1995: Cause I only hear it in my lucid dreams if i try
qpdv#1995: I can control it in dreams
qpdv#1995: Turn it up or down
qpdv#1995: Bizarre
noraleader#8707: i could hear past 16k at 40, but stress and abuse play in, and other things. i'm currently healing from a chainsaw leg wound. i can still walk. i can't sleep much haha. i'm not sure listening to speakers and bandlimited technologically reproducible signals for a couple decades is natural.
qpdv#1995: Mine is at 13k. The tinnitus
qpdv#1995: I narrowed it down with a signal generator
qpdv#1995: I can hear up to 16k i think
qpdv#1995: Can't remember
qpdv#1995: I'm late 30s
noraleader#8707: okay. here's the horror story. tinnitus schminnutus. i wear ear plugs all day. after years, i have abscesses or something, resonant chambers, that fill with fluid, and self resonate. find the right frequency, impulse resonator, it keeps resonating until i bang my head right to make it stop. we're talking LOW frequency tinnitus, like a truck is parked in your front yard, and it's so loud you can't tell what's gonig on around you. try finding a cricket or a dropped object when you can't hear highs.
noraleader#8707: this means i can have my ears ringing at like 30Hz ALL NIGHT loud enough to have difficulty hearing shti in the room. tha'ts life. you put up with thnigs. it can get worse. how you deal wiht it is all you got. salvese quien puede.
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qpdv#1995: I can actually make the sound stop through making it produce the exact same noise. But the problem is that it wavers slightly.
qpdv#1995: I forget what that's called for some reason
qpdv#1995: Playing 2 signals of the same audio makes it silent
qpdv#1995: Or whatever
noraleader#8707: just don't worry about it, less noise and less EM, less stress, less negative spirituality, these help.
qpdv#1995: It doesn't bother me anymore
qpdv#1995: Mainly was trying to figure it out to help a friend who is suicidal
qpdv#1995: A lot of people with it are suicidal
qpdv#1995: Tinnitustalk forums are acary
qpdv#1995: Scary
noraleader#8707: i go through phases where i still feel creative in one way or another, but at my age it's natural to understand my plac ein a process, my need for composition, or lack of it.
qpdv#1995: Yeah I've heard of that. Some people hear "jackhammers"
qpdv#1995: Well
qpdv#1995: I have focused all that energy into programming
qpdv#1995: And creating this application
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qpdv#1995: So I can model the geometry of sound
qpdv#1995: And use it to study sound
qpdv#1995: I want to fully understand it
qpdv#1995: Cymatics
qpdv#1995: I believe there's something special about cymatics
qpdv#1995: I don't quite know what it is yet
noraleader#8707: haha listen to my music you'll learn about scary. once you go all the way, little stuff won't bother you. i'm probably the world's first person to do procedural lyrical song. but like w.s. burroughs said about cut-up media, procedural sound creates EVP. i have years of EVP rap, EVP whatever. i power up riffusion, it starts talking immediately.
"lilya right, sentient robot that tastes right" that's mason talk.
qpdv#1995: Procedural in what way
noraleader#8707: yes i did physical modeling of plates so cymatics and stuff... procedural in any way... in the oldest days, i use da combination of BASIC, dice, and hand recording. 1994.
qpdv#1995: Ah nice. I used to use a computer mic under a mouse pad and recorded myself tapping on it with wooden spoons. Voila drumz
qpdv#1995: Overdrive the sound a bit
qpdv#1995: I was mostly a guitarist that learned keys and drums ( a little) and self taught myself everything
qpdv#1995: I always had a digital aspect to everything tho because I used computers
qpdv#1995: But only for recording
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qpdv#1995: And effects
qpdv#1995: And drums
qpdv#1995: Lol
noraleader#8707: i should probably shut up.. i'm old, and old people like me are focused on resolution, release, younger people are still more part of processes, and my perspective and meaningless details are less useful to you than yours. also, my experience with prodecural media, is not typical, why shoul dit be haha.
qpdv#1995: Toward the end i utilized synths to sound exactly like guitars. I then stopped playing guitar
qpdv#1995: Nah man I'm in the middle
qpdv#1995: I was recording 192khz alwaya at the end
qpdv#1995: 96 forever tho
qpdv#1995: 23 bit
qpdv#1995: 24*
noraleader#8707: at the beginning of synth development, 2d circular membranes and cepstral transforms were hot stuff, i managed to do both by the time i finished.
qpdv#1995: It always annoyed me that it never sounded the same when ezported.. even to flac
qpdv#1995: No matter what I did it was still missing the sound from the daw
qpdv#1995: The quality
qpdv#1995: But i got pretty good at it
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qpdv#1995: It's too bad i got Tinnitus
noraleader#8707: so a satisfying trip.
it's okay you can't hear that high any more, but you remember the feeling 🙂
qpdv#1995: Oh well musicians will be out of business completely soon
qpdv#1995: Yeah
qpdv#1995: I don't wanna hear that high anymore
qpdv#1995: Lol
noraleader#8707: it hurts
qpdv#1995: I wish i could cut my hearing off at 12k
qpdv#1995: That'd be fine
qpdv#1995: No Tinnitus then
qpdv#1995: Or so they think
qpdv#1995: But yeah when you're young the highs sound great but you can't hear the damage
qpdv#1995: Slowly it creeps in
qpdv#1995: Anyways
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noraleader#8707: well, losing the pristine qualities of youth hapens.. what's worse than tinnitus is having a spirit attached to you that doesn't shut up. all day all night saying it's name because i'm the only person who knew it was murdered. that makes you long for the days of pristine quality.
qpdv#1995: Facts
qpdv#1995: Lol
noraleader#8707: change comes like that. than it's different. appreciate and be grateful each day for what's there. thank your mom. that's all i got for ya. if anyone knows how to cast 32 bit floats as 16 bit ints for writing a wav in win32, i'm game.
qpdv#1995: Oh, innocence.. youve got something of mine
qpdv#1995: Yeah i looked over at my hand today
qpdv#1995: And remembered what it looked like when i was 15
qpdv#1995: I am turning into a reptile
qpdv#1995: Apparently
qpdv#1995: Sweet, young me would be so proud
qpdv#1995: But yeah aging is interesting
qpdv#1995: Soon we won't have to age tho
qpdv#1995: And will probably be able to return to our 20s
noraleader#8707: and screw eternally for beelzebubba
qpdv#1995: Nah
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noraleader#8707: lord of matter
qpdv#1995: I got my own universe i wanna run around in
qpdv#1995: Lmao
qpdv#1995: Booted again
noraleader#8707: i sledgehammered too many stumps today to want anything
qpdv#1995: Why doesn't discord just warn u
qpdv#1995: Jesus
qpdv#1995: It closes the entire app
qpdv#1995: Rude, man
qpdv#1995: Yeah you need rest
qpdv#1995: Then you can imagine more stuff later
qpdv#1995: Is your imagination growing tired
qpdv#1995: With age
noraleader#8707: somehow despite electronics i got mixed up with big band era jazz, my imagination finally figured out something and didnt shut up for several years, all day all night, same song for months. it took several year to learn how to stop imagining music constantly. i've heard that the 60s are the best decade for composers, i've herd some lovely stuf as such. but my imagination has some unique affectors.
noraleader#8707: after a month of riffusion rofl
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noraleader#8707: or some decent weed
qpdv#1995: I can't listen to jazz yet
qpdv#1995: I'm not there yet LOL
noraleader#8707: but i guess the main thing is that, some of us are just having fun, some of us are involved with music because of relevancy to culture, society, matters of import. when you're young you feel music can change the world. don't try it. THEY see you coming and they're ready for whatever you got. i guess life has to be more complex than that.
qpdv#1995: But my brain has made it up while dreaming
noraleader#8707: yeah well you need to screw a lot to hot 1930's jazz, that will get it in ya
qpdv#1995: That's one of the reasons i taught myself to lucid dream
qpdv#1995: So i could create music in dreams and bring it back
qpdv#1995: And i succeeded
qpdv#1995: Sometimes
noraleader#8707: yeah, jump out of bed, 20 minutes later down. aah midi hardware.
qpdv#1995: Lots of trying to decipher mumbles from recording myself sleeping
qpdv#1995: Yeah i hummed Melodie
qpdv#1995: Melodies
qpdv#1995: As best i could
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qpdv#1995: Lota very weird recordings
qpdv#1995: Lol
qpdv#1995: The brain is a supercomputer
noraleader#8707: i had an incredibly hard time learning to imagine music. but it's fluid now. partially cultural bg.
qpdv#1995: Especially when we're asleep
qpdv#1995: I try not to anymore
qpdv#1995: Imagine music
qpdv#1995: Or lyrics song titles
qpdv#1995: Everything used to be a song title or lyric. Now i try to use that energy for programming ideas
qpdv#1995: It becomes a part of life after a while
qpdv#1995: And never really leaves
noraleader#8707: self determination is perhaps the best thnig to get out of the whole process, autonomy over your musical thoughts, because trying to contribute to culture is... difficult haha
qpdv#1995: Yeah
qpdv#1995: I did it for myself mostly
DJ Scythe#1328: Yeah! Sidewalks and Skeletons, brothel, White Ring, Fraunhofer Diffraction, Ritualz, Drogma, CRIM3S, Ic3peak, etc
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qpdv#1995: I wanted to hear things that didn't exist
qpdv#1995: And i did
qpdv#1995: And it was great
qpdv#1995: That's the best part about creating
qpdv#1995: Now we can hand it over to robots soon
qpdv#1995: That's fine with me
qpdv#1995: For a lot of others, not so much
qpdv#1995: I haven't heard any of these. Damn
qpdv#1995: Ah well
qpdv#1995: Trying to keep up with music is another thing in itself
qpdv#1995: I'll let other people do that
qpdv#1995: I find music when I'm ready
qpdv#1995: Just like acid
qpdv#1995: Lol
noraleader#8707: rofl, i got some acid a year or three back, tried it twice, doesn't work when your body is all fked up and you're old, lif eisn't fun anymore. it's just like being on a big wheel for 12 hours. do acid when you're yonug.
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noraleader#8707: my advice haha
qpdv#1995: Yeah i did
qpdv#1995: A little too much maybe
noraleader#8707: you can blame me for ruining your life if you like, here's demonic rap vol. 1 https://xoxos.bandcamp.com/album/dope-beats-for-suckers
qpdv#1995: I don't really like it anymore
qpdv#1995: Yeah it hurts too
qpdv#1995: Man
qpdv#1995: I keep getting booted
qpdv#1995: Im too use to living in Ireland
qpdv#1995: Where literally everybody curses
qpdv#1995: Even little kids
qpdv#1995: Parents just laugh
qpdv#1995: But no i come in here and curse
qpdv#1995: Booted
qpdv#1995: Will check it out in a bit but I've heard a lot of music i doubt this will phase me but we'll see
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dent#5397: Holy crap would love to pick your brain about it
qpdv#1995: I'm not even sure what it means but it seems interesting
virt#1371: you know it! can't wait to share notes with anyone else trying this.. i posted my method as of 2 weeks ago here: https://github.com/virtjk/neurochip but have learned a lot since then.
DJ Scythe#1328: One of my favorite genres
DJ Scythe#1328: If you like Witch House, here’s my last EP for pay-what-you-want:
DJ Scythe#1328: https://djscythe.bandcamp.com/album/ennuit
qpdv#1995: how do u feel about soon being out of business completely
qpdv#1995: making money with music-wise
qpdv#1995: this is question for all of u
qpdv#1995: music-makers
qpdv#1995: like i
qpdv#1995: https://tenor.com/view/i-thought-id-come-check-on-you-double-trouble-shera-and-the-princesses-of-power-i-thought-id-see-you-ive-come-to-see-you-gif-18723572
wedgeewoo#7793: finally
qpdv#1995: Thank beJesus it's finally over soon
qpdv#1995: The struggle to create the perfect music for ourselves will soon be over
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qpdv#1995: And we can share it if we want
qpdv#1995: We lived through the worst 😉
dent#5397: These notes are sick can I DM you later?
dent#5397: I’m writing a paper for a class I have about Riffusion techniques and I’m def including timbre transfer as one of them
wedgeewoo#7793: https://github.com/LAION-AI/audio-dataset/blob/main/data_collection/README.md
wedgeewoo#7793: just to get an idea on how the dataset is tagged
dtobro#9374: Hello everyone.
hulla#5846: Hello another video Donne with 3 AI and the defunct Craiyon V1 https://youtu.be/mCQS6LGjp7A
Crusader Riza#5941: How do i train it
wedgeewoo#7793: https://github.com/wedgeewoo/Image-Shifter i made this to shift around seamless riffusion generations. its pretty handy when changing where the loop starts
dent#5397: Same way you train SD, either dream booth, textual inversion, hypernetworks or LoRa
dent#5397: You’ll have to split your source sound into 5.1 second chunks and convert to spectrograms
dent#5397: what other crazy techniques have people been trying besides low denoising img2img and training?
dent#5397: tried some inpainting but couldn't really find it useful
TemporAlyx#1181: I keep expecting someone to fine-tune a model for outpainting
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TemporAlyx#1181: although realistically it won't be too much longer (few months maybe?) before there's some open-sourced trained versions of audioLM
dent#5397: I wish you could inpaint/out paint without a prompt and it would just try to continue what’s there
dent#5397: But I guess to do that you’d have to fine tune the model with your source audio
dent#5397: what BPM is the riffusion seeds?
dent#5397: when I try making a spectrogram with 2 bars of 93.75, I get an image that's 513 pixels wide instead of 512
dent#5397: 93.8 works to make 512 tho..
TemporAlyx#1181: I mean you *can*, but it loses global coherence quite quickly
dent#5397: Wym?
TemporAlyx#1181: outpainting can work, but even with the same prompt and everything the overall vibe of a song will change drastically the further you outpaint, as it doesn't know anything about what is going on earlier in the song
TemporAlyx#1181: I've done somethings where I run successing img2img passes, sometimes with higher horizontal width, and that sometimes helps, but its hit or miss
dent#5397: Word I meant more like outpainting original audio that wasn’t made with a prompt, kind of like Jukebox’s continuation thing
hulla#5846: hello i still make some videos https://youtu.be/nNx45bufIj4
noraleader#8707: reminds me of one of tom ellard's classics 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5OzXCAabIs
sperzieb00n#3903: i just had to share this meme https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1080594898870337556/ai_will_take_my_job.png
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TecnoWorld#3509: what do you think of chatGTP api release? can it do something for music? I read that here: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100090776612056
hevalkinch#6394: you can use ChatGPT to compose music for sure
Red Hulk#6450: hi
virt#1371: yeah i like being its transcriber / hearing-ear human and giving it feedback as it refines its own riffusion prompts https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1081101955327344720/image.png,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1081101955646099456/A_melancholic_piano_melody_that_gradually_builds_in_intensity_leading_to_a_soaring_crescendo_with_a_hint_of_hopefulness_63686174677074.wav
Zkittlezz#4093: 📍Milan Producer📍✅ I'm 19 years old and I try to make it with music like you all think, 🎹I would be very grateful if you would check out my latest production❤️ (you won't regret listening) if u add an opinion I appreciate 🙏
https://youtu.be/tErcp0TLaw4
dent#5397: bruh why every channel?
Prady#4766: Does anyone know about https://mubert.com/ , is it really AI generated music? The music sounds too perfect ...
RiddlingAngels#1197: does anyone know if there is a version of rifussion that takes a small music sample turns it into a spectrograph and then back to music, like image 2 image stable difussion?
TecnoWorld#3509: this news is very interesting: https://www.turtlesai.com/copyright-for-ai-generated-art/
TecnoWorld#3509: from this site: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100090776612056
Zkittlezz#4093: 📍Milan Producer📍✅ I'm 19 years old and I start to make music 2 yrs ago, 🎹I would be very grateful if you would check out my latest production❤️ (you won't regret listening) if u add an opinion I appreciate 🙏
https://youtu.be/V3H4Ib7sjkU
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cherubble#4147: is there a good audio to spectrogram for img2img for riffusion webui?
matteo101man#6162: nah
matteo101man#6162: I mean at least idk I've had to use the python script for that homie
cherubble#4147: python script?
matteo101man#6162: yes
cherubble#4147: can you please send it?\
wedgeewoo#7793: theres a git repo called riffusion-manipulation
wedgeewoo#7793: you need that but you might as well get the riffusion inference repo as well since the set up for the riffusion inference environment is in there, which is needed to run both
matteo101man#6162: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1081412330488864798/file2img.py
wedgeewoo#7793: you can write in the console like this : python file2img.py -d 5119 -i path/to/wav -o path/to/directory
cherubble#4147: i dont need it anymore, i found another way
wedgeewoo#7793: tell us tell us
cherubble#4147: i just found a web audio to spectrogram and edited it a little bit
cherubble#4147: it worked good enough
Zkittlezz#4093: 📍Milan Producer📍✅ I'm 19 years old and I start to make music 2 yrs ago, 🎹I would be very grateful if you would check out my latest production❤️ (you won't regret listening) if u add an opinion I appreciate 🙏
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ERROR: type should be string, got "\nhttps://youtu.be/V3H4Ib7sjkU\nZkittlezz#4093: Opinions guys\nwedgeewoo#7793: i think your in the wrong discord\nPrady#4766: I think in this repo you have this : https://huggingface.co/spaces/riffusion/riffusion-playground where you can do audio to audio ( img to img ) option . Will it be good enough ? Audio is first converted into spectrographs\nwedgeewoo#7793: new hypernet is out if you want to grab it :https://civitai.com/models/10730/wedgeewoo-engram\nnoraleader#8707: \"hi chatgpt, i was coding neural net error_score and thought \"score\" would be a good multiple meaning name for a music project.. can you identify any previous music projects or albums with exactly this name?\"\n\"sure i can help you with your search! results.. \"score\" by \"the hive\"\"\n\"can you provide a link to this album?\"\n\"i'm sorry i made a mistake there appears to be no album named \"score\" by \"the hive\"\"\n\"hmm, the hive seem to be up to their old tricks. where did you get this result? can you provide any evidence of a recording project named \"the hive\"?\"\n\"i'm sorry, in my previous response i made an error, i can find no evidence of any recording project named \"the hive\"\"\n:/\nman if it were 1989 and you had an s1000 you'd be so set\nSdB#2858: Hi there, I tried (and fell in love with) Riffusion a month ago, but haven't tried since then because the stem are very short and you don't have much control over it. I believe their approach (generating spectrograph and converting back to audio) is the best so far, and I wonder if there's been any update since then?"
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A-Wiz#1337: Hi all
A-Wiz#1337: I'm a college student in a Vision Analysis course, I was wondering if its possible to fork & self-implement Riffusion on my own machine as a course project?
noraleader#8707: someone made an effort to document installing riffusion with anaconda on windows. there are a number of other forky stuffs around (automatic1111 something) but you need to know python, i guess the dependencies are too volatile, and all of us stuck in the help channel don't do that 🙂 but check the past comments and you'll find a couple references if you know that sort of thing.
Prady#4766: Just a question , is it possible to change audio from one instrument to another with python ? For example , one can try to change the electric guitar riffs into bass by manipulating it in Ableton ( I think i saw it is a transposing in some tutorials) I am just wondering if there are effect generators as such
virt#1371: yo this is very exciting. i'd say you're a few weeks ahead of me on training. i briefly started on a 3-song hypernet using a1111, stopped it after just a few hours because i was impatient to hear if it even did anything. and yep. noisy but it works. i'm spending the weekend clipping and annotating my initial set for a larger fine-tune -- it's super inspiring to see your progress!
wedgeewoo#7793: thats great! are you training a hypernet model or a dreambooth model? keep us posted on your results i'd love to hear what you generate!
virt#1371: heh, i tried all of them (and both a1111 and kohya-ss, translating from all the waifu-oriented guides) but after lots of out-of-RAM errors (8gb + skill issue) hypernet was the only training i managed to run locally. i'm not sure if it's optimal, but it's a start! i'm working up to a more conventional finetune with this bigger dataset, with super detailed annotations and even emotional tags.
virt#1371: oh, and: helping to pre-beta test a predictive/extrapolating midi model that's integrated into reaper, which could feed its base compositions into riffusion for arrangement and rendering (like how i'm remixing my old nintendo tracks now)... so we might be able to achieve long-term songwriting structure outside of spectrogram world, and combine the methods! next few months are gonna be wild.
wedgeewoo#7793: holy crap that amazing, ive been keeping up with the tracks you are posting using midi and the results are nothing short of amazing, keep up the great work my dude
virt#1371: word. i really wanna update my guides with new findings and help others get going. big tasks ahead :O we can do it!
wedgeewoo#7793: https://tenor.com/view/headbang-car-waynes-world-party-time-gif-14951887
wedgeewoo#7793: damn right
wedgeewoo#7793: damn conflicted
wedgeewoo#7793: id invite you outside to get my teeth knocked in, but we've seen better days
wedgeewoo#7793: trying to be funny and cordial...you know... keep it light and fun?
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wedgeewoo#7793: https://tenor.com/view/put-em-up-wizard-of-oz-cowardly-lion-boxing-challenge-gif-18463476
wedgeewoo#7793: lol
A-Wiz#1337: @JL can we get a ban?
RiddlingAngels#1197: Ok. Thanks! I will check it out.
RiddlingAngels#1197: Just tried it out with dissonant sounds and already got a very interesting result. Somehow the first time I tried it gave me an error but I simply tried again...
virt#1371: yeah, you can use ... any sound. and make it into lots of other sounds (prompt was "Jazz quintet playing the most screamin track of their lives") https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1081787802846507150/riff_and_riffer.mp3
JL#1976: Done. Thank you for pinging me
Green eyes#5175: I've found out about this program for composing with code https://opusmodus.com/ , might be interesting for you people.
dent#5397: Does someone understand how the frick a spectrogram only 512 pixels wide can produce 5 seconds of audio?
dent#5397: Is the samplerate rly 100 samples per second?
wedgeewoo#7793: you should check out the spectrogram_params.py, all the info is in there
dent#5397: It says 44k but the question is how is it possible to represent that many samples with only 512 pixels long image
wedgeewoo#7793: mathing it out its like ~86 samples per pixel
wedgeewoo#7793: i gotta look at the code
dent#5397: Yea or maybe I’m not understanding spectrograms
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wedgeewoo#7793: in the custom exif tags the sample rate is like 11000
dent#5397: By custom u mean the ones you’ve trained?
wedgeewoo#7793: nope in the spectrogram parameters
wedgeewoo#7793: in the py file
wedgeewoo#7793: so itd be like 21 ish samples per pixel>
wedgeewoo#7793: ?
wedgeewoo#7793: i dont know man, im finding it hard to abstract myself lol
dent#5397: Yeah cause there’s a whole FFT function that turns samples into spectrogram and vice versa
dent#5397: I just can’t think ab it rn lol
dent#5397: But 512x512 for width and height seems a lot more reasonable for five seconds of 44k
wedgeewoo#7793: yeah i can barely brain as it is, Fourier transform stuff is hard to wrap my head around
noraleader#8707: hey all, i've managed to get all the parts of my windows program to add high frequencies to riffusion working! it trains a neural net, estimates the spectrum to 18k, saves the wav, automatically removes loops (slooow), allows you to train the net on your own source files. written in C and under 1000 lines 🙂
i'll also add a function to stereoise the wav by using fft to offset the phase in each channel by frequency band, but before that i want to refine the neural net to perform better. i just made my first wav out of it, it's not perfect (shakers in the back i didn't notice) but it's something to EQ. i'm going to fiddle about with the net before release, but expect to be hifi-ing within a week. win10, it expects input wavs to be at 44100 and runs at 16 bit mono.
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right now there are 232 inputs, 180 outputs, and a single hidden layer with 420 nodes. messed with learning rate and regularisation some and changing the node count. tensorflow throws a much larger net at this exact problem 😉 let me see if a couple more hidden layers helps it some. if anyone wants to go crazy they can take the source and use a longer fourier window, probably make it more classy sounding.
wedgeewoo#7793: dang dude, 10k to 18k is going to make a huge difference in fidelity
noraleader#8707: it's going, got examples, but i just got crash n burned by github
you see i'm a simple mfer. i say "update" github says "push". i uploaded this as my first source to github.
i went to update the project. it says, the remote source is newer, i can't do it. WTFINGF
i have to "pull" before i can "push" and who wants anyone else's crap on my actual good work.
so now i've deleted the repository.
of course, i have to figure out how to get this up there, because i know github repositories allow binaries, without learning much about stupid github or version control or anything i hate about idiots.
the word is UPDATE not "push" gay boys
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noraleader#8707: this is going to hurt.
noraleader#8707: because it still thinks there's a repository there with that name.
i'm so ignorant of msvc (i love fclt) that i don't know how to copy a solution. do you know i've spent hours trying to find out hoew to f5cking copy a solution in msvc. in borland, you just copy the f5cking .cpp text file, give it a new name and compile that, it doesn;t try to screw your mind in with "solution" settings from half a jazillion dimensions of hell.
noraleader#8707: i'm sorry, i'm mentally scarred by a society that object orients a single pole lowpass.
noraleader#8707: at the very least, i will wait until my nn refining is finished, create a new win32 project and copy all the crap over to that, then upload it with a shiny new name and hopefully find out how to stop it from doing anything to what i upload.
dent#5397: Is there a program that splits audio into 512x512 spectrograms for training Riffusion?
dent#5397: I made one but wondering if it already exists
juancopi81#7816: Hi @dent I am also looking for something similar. Have you found anything? Thanks!
dent#5397: Ye I made a Python script for it: https://github.com/d3n7/riffusionPrepper
dent#5397: Have to edit one thing but u out your input audio in the input folder, replace the text in keyword.txt, then just run the script
juancopi81#7816: Great! Thank you very much.
dent#5397: Np! Just fixed it so now you can put multiple .wavs in the input folder
juancopi81#7816: How many spectrograms would you recommend for fine-tuning riffusion with DreamBooth?
dent#5397: I’ve havent tried it actually maybe @wedgeewoo has an idea. But my guess would be 20-30 pics (like 1-2 min of audio)
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dent#5397: If u try it out let us know your results 🙂
juancopi81#7816: Sure! I'll do 🙂
hulla#5846: hello i still make video with AI ( and i am still in search of an AI for the Music Riffusion is not the best for me i think ) https://youtu.be/AzhvjnpzcYk
dent#5397: Jukebox is a tried and true classic if Riffusion isn’t ur style but it’s not really text conditioned
dent#5397: Anybody know how to access the audio-to-audio function of the streamlit app via command line or api rather than the website? Trying to incorporate this into another coding project
dent#5397: and i'm too dumb to reverse engineer the audio-to-audio .py
hulla#5846: hello ty for your answer i have just found this one ( still a little to short but fun ) https://huggingface.co/spaces/JammyMachina/the-jam-machine-app
dent#5397: This is cool! Is just MIDI data which explains the high fidelity but dope nonetheless
RiddlingAngels#1197: I know this is a very general question but I figured I'd ask to see if anyone has any useful feedback. When it comes to image diffusion models the differences between the samplers ddim, euler etc are quite subtle but can sometimes play an important role. For instance, some folks seem to like the results you get with k_dpm_2_a when you provide a detailed prompt. Is there anywhere to get guidance on which sampler might work best for riffusion? I guess you can simply think of the spectrogram as an image and ignore the music part
RiddlingAngels#1197: https://nightcafe.studio/blogs/info/stable-diffusion-samplers
matteo101man#6162: Euler A tbh
wedgeewoo#7793: dpm adaptive can be fun
matteo101man#6162: I don't get better results with more steps or dpm adaptive
matteo101man#6162: just seems like a waste of time
wedgeewoo#7793: i think its pretty cool, it doesnt use the input step count and generates its own with the cfg scale and the resolution
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wedgeewoo#7793: idk how
hulla#5846: Hello another video " Special Woman Day " https://youtu.be/C3h72yo68Gc
Wulfgaard#4324: Wow that music makes me wanna cram a screwdriver in my ear lol
Wulfgaard#4324: Also, much more SFW than title suggested
noraleader#8707: just "beavers made by many" would keep the entire 1970's busy for a month
ComputersDream#2175: No. It's just sample packs that are mixed together. And it's not royalty free samples either.
dent#5397: anyone know about img2img with the automatic1111 api? it's driving me nuts
dent#5397: i'm trying to do it in python but keep keeps throwing me an error about the base64
dent#5397: so I'd like to see what the payload should look like
dent#5397: also when trying to use the riffusion api I get this response ""Invalid seed image: og-beat""
dent#5397: sucks that it's broken out of the box
EulerLagrange#3917: Hey there, I've been working on a another track https://youtu.be/RWzmB1Gs3xs
wedgeewoo#7793: this is really cool, tho there is something i notice. There is some clicking in the audio, this is probably because of the audio samples that are stitched together.
EulerLagrange#3917: Yeah you are right, it's definitely a combination of riffusion's own glitches and additional ones from editing
wedgeewoo#7793: i got a script if you want to check it out, its janky but ive had success with it
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EulerLagrange#3917: sure let me see
wedgeewoo#7793: https://github.com/wedgeewoo/audiocombineoverlap
wedgeewoo#7793: theres probably 100's og scripts like these on gh, but chatgpt kind of solved the problem for me lol
EulerLagrange#3917: It looks pretty straightforward (kudos for having a nice simple script) but I'll have to dig a bit to understand the principles
noraleader#8707: you can say what you want about what the machine is doing, but when issued a prompt, riffusion often sounds like it gradually develops a feel for the style (especially if you give it a prompt it can reference but wasn't trained on, like heavy metal stuff, it will try to play distorted guitar until it gets it right but it can't really). when the server is pretty clear and it's been going for a wile and isn't switching around you can hear it groove as long as there's some aptitude for the prompt.
everything is in the pocket, everythnig coming out of it is just right.
dent#5397: A large reason why it doesn’t at the very beginning is because it’s doing an img2img on a seed image rather than txt2img
dent#5397: Also metal is def very underrepresented in the data
dent#5397: i'm surprised there's not more custom riffusion models
dent#5397: we're given the gift of easily trainable text-to-audio model we could make it rly good
hulla#5846: hello and yes another video https://youtu.be/j5MwgHhnhNw
wedgeewoo#7793: im personally worried about the legality of it all, i dont want mettalica kicking down my door with cease and desist docs
noraleader#8707: today.. managed to identify frames where the neural net returns overly large values and stop them from adding ringy artifacts to the file. observing and learning more, not finished yet. so eg. if the first version with 1 layer worked good but glitched it up with chirps, i fixed that part, it won't do that. plus it marks where they occur now so i can see if they stop with more training et c., added metrics to observe improvement in mag and phase training.
noraleader#8707: next day.. after a couple weeks messing with structure (and thankfully implementing things like the chirp catching) i realise the lack of dynamic response is due to using tanh activation (ranged -1 to 1) which puts zero right about where my mag bins (log10) are averaging.. time to reformat my data and hopefully it will be better..
noraleader#8707: i record riffusion off the web app, every couple of frames i hit pause to let the server catch up so i don't have tons of slowly evolving loops, i just have to stitch up the files (theoretically.. i think i'm over 5 days of recordings haha). so i'm falling asleep after recording an hour of some hopefully good material, pressing the button every eight seconds, save it as "unnoodle this" because of all the work it's gonna take. i made one more 1/2 hour recording that night, i just checked the time on the file and i definately recorded this one afterwards. it's named after something a rapper said in it, "eat your spaghetti" :/
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Sasu#0540: OWOWOWOW
noraleader#8707: ol pirates yes they rob i
per#3139: HEY!
dent#5397: YO!
arjuns#4769: what is the prompt that riffusion uses for stable diffusion?
dent#5397: Riffusion is it’s own trained stable diffusion model that works with any prompt
arjuns#4769: Ooh cool
per#3139: hey so uhmm
per#3139: I'm curious how this can interface with my current music theory program? 🤔
per#3139: like, could it use another system for evaluation?
per#3139: could it be grown into something bigger? 🤔
per#3139: or like 🤔 hmm
dent#5397: That’s up to you what other system you use to evaluate, but sounds like a cool idea
dent#5397: Since it’s a stable diffusion model, you can “grow” the model by fine tuning it either with dream booth, textual embeddings, lora, or hypernetworks
per#3139: Are you the mind behind riffusion?
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hulla#5846: Hello i have do another video https://youtu.be/ej-6QEMv2_Q
dent#5397: No lol
per#3139: I'm still new to AI, but I'm building a complete Music Theory application
dent#5397: That’s sick. How are you planning to use Riffusion with it?
per#3139: idk
per#3139: not sure 🤔
per#3139: maybe as a testing model for input?
dent#5397: Was gonna suggest maybe an AI model that generates MIDI would be more suited to your analysis
per#3139: I like the visual aspect of riffusion also, so I'm taking a bit of inspiration from that
per#3139: why not Riffusion? 🤔
per#3139: the point of the application is not to be limited to MIDI btw
per#3139: although it does already take midi just for real time processing and development purposes
dent#5397: Bc Riffusion will give you raw audio, so you’ll need to pick out the notes from the spectrogram and assign them roughly to notation in order to analyze them
per#3139: that's the point of the application
dent#5397: Which is still cool if you wanna do that
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per#3139: that's what the application does
per#3139: + some
dent#5397: Then sounds perfect
per#3139: or is intended to do as it's entry point at least
per#3139: here's a sample of the current format of the output data https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053081177772261386/1085601043745882172/image.png
per#3139: from Midi -> Pitch -> Tone -> whatever
dent#5397: Have you tested it w audio? Noisy or not
dent#5397: Also wondering how you’re gonna seperate overtones from fundamentals
EulerLagrange#3917: I am feeling lucky this week with a new track. It's slightly better than the first time I tried that genre https://youtu.be/7yPZMPKSQlo
hulla#5846: Hello Yeaaaaaaahhh " text to video " for all now on Hugging Face ( and another AI for the music ) https://youtu.be/4-BwJbXHI14
per#3139: so far I've only done it with midi
per#3139: but I imagine I'll have to do pitchclass analysis across octaves (which is partially implemented already)
per#3139: and then fft to calculate loss/accuracy 🤔 ?
per#3139: haven't gotten to that part yet, but working there
dent#5397: Yea I’ve never done that before but I imagine ur gonna have to consider how it do it polyphonic and also if drums and other elements are gonna mess things up
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per#3139: Yep
per#3139: Yeah, every pitch would have to be treated individually
dent#5397: Ya that’s where the trouble comes in of differentiating between overtones and fundamentals
iwo#9254: Hey guys is it only possible to download 5 sec?
hulla#5846: Hello yes but it is " Riffusion " you are free to make all the five second you want and edit them after for making a more long music
iwo#9254: So just 5 sec at once ok. Ty!
Sasu#0540: merchant ships brb xD
KING#9164: hello everyone, does anyone know if Riffusion Interface can be running on Amd gpu with ROCm instead of nvidia CUDA? i really do not have Nvidia gpu right now.
horatiuromantic#8513: yo just wanna say this tool is incredible. just spent almost an hour listening to crazy jams coming from it. also my brain is now foggy and I fear for the future of humanity in many ways. but great job making this project!
TecnoWorld#3509: what do you think of Adobe Firefly? https://www.turtlesai.com/could-adobe-be-the-first/
hulla#5846: Hello a little fun with Variations with Stable Diffusion on Hugging face https://youtu.be/PoE9bW4oFMA
Loelu#1262: Hi, i installed the extension in the web ui but i cant get it to work is there a video out there on this?
GooseFairy#6680: hey anyone wanna play
GooseFairy#6680: lol
Epikastema#8640: can't rn bouta leave sry
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Aces#1239: Also it's RLrs promotion shortly right?
Aces#1239: Wanna watch leftovers wreck face
Tangil#3830: EnVy dead lol
Aces#1239: Genuinely sad it's not F3 on the block
Aces#1239: Also, super sad at Doomsee's departure from RL
Aces#1239: But like after that I am definitely up for playing with people who actually exist
drssoccer55#6192: When are rlbot clan tryouts?
Silh#0320: Now that'd be a sight to see, bot team vs team...
Silh#0320: With bots not being able to communicate with each other, all they have is each each other's coordinates and such...
Aces#1239: Maybe next year? XD
GooseFairy#6680: well we need to have team 2v2 and solo 2v2 at some point ;p
GooseFairy#6680: once we can beat allstar bots
GooseFairy#6680: ;p
Aces#1239: I reckon we should make it so the bots can only communicate using quick chat
Silh#0320: No quickchat availble in exhibition mode though
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Silly Sausage#2735: That's not a very well defined protocol I've found.
Silh#0320: (Er, no chat at all, even)
Aces#1239: I am just amused at the concept of bots developing their own language based on a 4 character alphabet where no message can exceed the chat timeout
GooseFairy#6680: kek
GooseFairy#6680: I'd try to come up with funny messages
GooseFairy#6680: but yea I think there should be both 2v2 teams where the bots are made by the same person, and then a separate division where bots are paired for 2v2 randomly
GooseFairy#6680: cause that tackles 2 different challenges really
Silly Sausage#2735: What about 2v2 mixed (one bot, one human)
GooseFairy#6680: that'd be cool too
GooseFairy#6680: but idk if it's possible
Silh#0320: If you could get the controllers set up possibly (4-way splitscreen?)
Silly Sausage#2735: Yeah probably couldn't be the bot owner, but if you had two similarly matched players at the local host to see which bot is easier to play with.
GooseFairy#6680: which makes it subjective
Silly Sausage#2735: Yep
GooseFairy#6680: and subjective isn't good enough
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GooseFairy#6680: ;p
GooseFairy#6680: LAN would be the only way
Silh#0320: I think keeping it bot-only makes more sense, given the variety in human capability
Silh#0320: Afterall, this is what we're all about 😛
Silly Sausage#2735: Yeah, I'm thinking it's the bot tournament equivalent of the RLCS mid season thing.
GooseFairy#6680: what's that?
Silly Sausage#2735: Where that do rumble and weird modes
Silly Sausage#2735: We'd do a few mixed matches. :P
GooseFairy#6680: lol we're not gonna be doing weird modes for a while
Silh#0320: We have enough trouble with bots playing normal mode...
GooseFairy#6680: ^
Silly Sausage#2735: I have enough trouble getting my bot to chase the ball.
GooseFairy#6680: do you think it'd be more interesting in a 2v2 tourney to have us submit 2 bot teams or one bot and have teams paried randomly like FRC style
Silh#0320: Program to control 2 bots is probably going to be more complicated to code than single bots
Silh#0320: So I'd say start with the latter
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Silly Sausage#2735: I think the second would be more entertaining, but both are viable.
GooseFairy#6680: ehh but with single bots you have to adapt more depending on your teammates playstyle
GooseFairy#6680: they both have their own challenges
Aces#1239: I promise to use this chat for it's intended purpose tomorrow...
Silh#0320: Haha
Silh#0320: Yes
Silh#0320: Let's take this over to general
GooseFairy#6680: ffs I didn't even realize we were in here
GooseFairy#6680: xD
Aces#1239: Anyone up for some casual 3s later? Eu preferably but can handle USE
GooseFairy#6680: I'm on use
axelalex2#5793: here, EU
Aces#1239: Alright, I'm here all night, what suits?
Tangil#3830: You guys should play on Australian servers as a compromise :p
axelalex2#5793: so team up?
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Aces#1239: yeeeeeeeeeh 😃
Tangil#3830: anyone up for 2v2s or 3v3s in europe?
Tangil#3830: (i'm silver-gold)
axelalex2#5793: ranked?
Tangil#3830: anything
axelalex2#5793: i'm dia, that's why i asked; don't want to get banned because of boosting ^^
Tangil#3830: ah
Tangil#3830: i don't think we can even play ranked together because of the rank difference
axelalex2#5793: then let's go unranked ^^
Tangil#3830: okey
Tangil#3830: why is my steam in russian?
ccman32#4022: 🤔
Tangil#3830: *greek
Tangil#3830: i legit can't understand how to change it back
tarehart#6423: How about you start with changing your password
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Tangil#3830: ?
Tangil#3830: pretty sure i wasn't hacked
Tangil#3830: 2 factor authentication and stuff
tarehart#6423: Oh damn
Tangil#3830: i've changed it to english now
Tangil#3830: had to go on the steam website :/
Tangil#3830: welp, the website is in english, but the desktop client is in greek on the community hub
axelalex2#5793: Right click on steam-item in system bar, 3rd entry from bottom (settings), 6th entry from top (interface), 1st dropdown-menu selects the language
Tangil#3830: says English, displays library in English, displays Profile and Community sections in Greek
Tangil#3830: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
axelalex2#5793: watafak
Tangil#3830: Restarting Steam...
Tangil#3830: oof it works now
ccman32#4022: maybe do a virus scan just to be sure?
Tangil#3830: yeah good idea
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Silh#0320: *screams*
Silh#0320: If the only hit you can make is going to send the ball towards the opposing car right in front of our net... please don't hit it.
Silh#0320: Okay, I'm done.
axelalex2#5793: Who says Solo Standard is cancer? I just got 2 really nice passing plays in it
Tangil#3830: And probably played 30 games to get those 2 passes haha
Tangil#3830: /s
axelalex2#5793: nope, 3rd game
Tangil#3830: Psyonix must've given you their blessings
axelalex2#5793: maybe
ccman32#4022: xD impossible
ccman32#4022: I get like 1 game with good teammates every 10 games
axelalex2#5793: if you are going diamond/champion there are better teammates more often than in gold/platinum, still, most of them are not aware of their teammates
civilianemail#7149: ^
dtracers#9598: Idk I almost always have good teammates
dtracers#9598: I'm the bad one
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dtracers#9598: But I'm also at diamond 2
axelalex2#5793: If you queue alone in 3v3, queue standard, not solo standard. I could tell everytime, in which playlist i plays, whilst i queued in both. In solo standard everyone wants to be the hero and disregards team play. God, i hate it.
dtracers#9598: see i do not have that exerpeince in solo standard
dtracers#9598: almost to diamond 3 in solo 😉
Aces#1239: Lonely single looking for team, mention me so discord beeps 😉
Tangil#3830: i've ranked up to gold since the last time i texted here
Tangil#3830: @Aces wanna play
Tangil#3830: unranked?
Aces#1239: Ye ye
Aces#1239: I hate how the windows key is shit on rl
Aces#1239: gg till next time
mdog95#3424: D3 of anyone wants to play with me sometime. Steam is the same as discord
dtracers#9598: I might play with you tonight if you want
dtracers#9598: steam name is same as discord
dtracers#9598: you could also play with @Sciguymjm (me and him are not a good rocket league team :P)
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Sciguymjm#5935: im trash
Sciguymjm#5935: D3 trash
sry9681#8558: I was going to ask what rank people are but I guess I wouldn't help y'all much. lol 😛 #Plat1life
mdog95#3424: you'll get there eventually
ccman32#4022: im barely plat 1 lol @sry9681
ccman32#4022: i dont play regularly
Epikastema#8640: d2 here
Epikastema#8640: haven't played ranked in a month
Epikastema#8640: lmao
sry9681#8558: @mdog95 thank you man. That's very nice of ya. I used to be Gold 1 before the rerank and made a significant jump after the new season
mdog95#3424: Nice dude. I was almost champ 2 last season, then the new season screwed me with teammates on the placement matches, then I couldn't constistently play for weeks, and here we are.
sry9681#8558: holy crap. thats awesome. And I've heard everyone above plat1 before the season went down when the new season started and everyone below plat1 went up when the new season started
Sciguymjm#5935: @mdog95 on a more serious note im down to clown
Sciguymjm#5935: my friends are champs only
Sciguymjm#5935: so i get wrecked
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mdog95#3424: all my friends are plat lol
mdog95#3424: I am also down to clown
Sciguymjm#5935: hell yeah
Sciguymjm#5935: just not right now
Sciguymjm#5935: but im on usually PST 6-11 pm
mdog95#3424: yeah later tonight maybe. idk when I'll be home
Sciguymjm#5935: ^^^^
sry9681#8558: Im down as well
dtracers#9598: we could do a private match of 2v2
dtracers#9598: im home
sry9681#8558: oh boy. that would be fun
Sciguymjm#5935: well i think that would be a little unbalanced? two d3s vs a d3 and a plat1?
Sciguymjm#5935: now we could do 3v2, two plat 1s, a d3 vs two d3s? lol
dtracers#9598: idk im okay with being on the team of the plat 1 😛
sry9681#8558: lol. I think it would be a fun trial to find a balance
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sry9681#8558: I usually play on xbox so my rank on pc isnt plat at all fyi
dtracers#9598: i mean in a private server you can play on whatever you want
Sciguymjm#5935: can you?
Sciguymjm#5935: I thought parties were PC, Xbox, PS4, or switch only
sry9681#8558: Well I have RL on pc so thats not an issue if thats what you mean @dtracers
sry9681#8558: i meant @Sciguymjm
dtracers#9598: private servers can have pc, xbox, switch OR pc, ps4
Sciguymjm#5935: how do you invite people?
Sciguymjm#5935: i haven't touched it in a while
dtracers#9598: you use a servername/password
Sciguymjm#5935: ah
Sciguymjm#5935: that's it. i know parties had the limitation
Sciguymjm#5935: thanks
Sciguymjm#5935: im surprised they haven't implemented the name/password thing for parties. im sure it'd be trivial
sry9681#8558: They are planning to, right? Isn't the party system being tested on PC currently?
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dtracers#9598: yes
dtracers#9598: they are planning cross platform parties
dtracers#9598: they said it will be in beta by the end of this year
dtracers#9598: I think from a code point it is trival. I think they were doing testing on the ux part
sry9681#8558: I think I broke my RL. "Preparing to launch Rocket League...." for about 5 minutes now
Sciguymjm#5935: ah
sry9681#8558: fixed it
Aces#1239: Weren’t Sony moaning about losing control over their customer experience and thus being dicks about cross platform? Remember it from E3 maybe they gave up
dtracers#9598: yes they were
dtracers#9598: but they were always okay with ps4 and pc players playing together
Sciguymjm#5935: I'm ready if anyone wants to play
sry9681#8558: i am too
mdog95#3424: Go ahead and play without me for now. I have to cook dinner
dtracers#9598: i am ready after this one game
Sciguymjm#5935: Ew adult stuff
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Sciguymjm#5935: Ok so everyone can add me (same username as here) and I can coordinate
dtracers#9598: okay done
sry9681#8558: accepted
Sciguymjm#5935: who else is joining
dtracers#9598: we can just do 2v1 😛
Sciguymjm#5935: join me
Sciguymjm#5935: @mdog95 ?
mdog95#3424: Still cooking lol
Sciguymjm#5935: ah alright
dtracers#9598: @mdog95 ?
mdog95#3424: few more minutes
mdog95#3424: okay ready for the invite
dtracers#9598: okay
momo#2764: someone want to play eu champ 1+?
mrcleanup14#1630: @momo#2764 im in the states or I would play with you
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Aces#1239: Anyone up for EU friendlies in around 4 hours? Girlfriend going out to the theatre
Edwin.#7531: I might, butcant say for sure yet
Aces#1239: if not it's alright, I can play on my own T_T
Lacayo#6375: lol this channel name
Lacayo#6375: quality labelling
GooseFairy#6680: any use people out there this afternoon?
Aces#1239: Being a busy boy.
dtracers#9598: im out there i guess
GooseFairy#6680: actually I got 2 wins in a row during solo standard so i think ima quit while im ahead lol
Sciguymjm#5935: ^^^ Thats how you do it
GooseFairy#6680: ye
dtracers#9598: im about to hit diamond 3 in solo standard
dtracers#9598: and plat 3 in standard
dtracers#9598: btw plat 3 is in a downward direction
GooseFairy#6680: lol im about to hit plat 3 in solo and diamond in 3s
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Edwin.#7531: I'm at like plat 1 for solo 3s and I'm diamond 2 in standard 😂
GooseFairy#6680: *boosting*
GooseFairy#6680: ;p
Edwin.#7531: Even with solo queing I get more wins in standard than in solo standard
GooseFairy#6680: yea for whatever reason people seem to lose any sense of teamplay when in solo standard
GooseFairy#6680: like
GooseFairy#6680: past 3 plat 2 games i was in some peopel *only* ballchased
Edwin.#7531: I always feel like I'm playing kinda at the level the other players are, so if they're diamond 1 I'll kinda be at that level, and in solo standard, it's just that I'm playing so horrible
Edwin.#7531: Found out that solo queing standard is better than solo queing solo standard
Aces#1239: Solo standard has a much larger disconnect between the diamonds, once you break into D2 it's a lot less shit
Aces#1239: but you also start seeing people with actual technical skill so...
GooseFairy#6680: there's plenty of technical skill at plat 2 and 3
GooseFairy#6680: people just dont know how to use it
GooseFairy#6680: lol
Edwin.#7531: I feel like at the rank i should be at like diamond 1/2, although I wouldn't mind being higher, and then u realise that u kinda seck BC you're plat 1 in solo standard
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GooseFairy#6680: just play 1v1s lol
Aces#1239: Was the implication that I lack any technical skill not obvious enough?
Edwin.#7531: I'm feeling like I haven't got technical skills at all (460 hours of playtime or so) but I kinda know how to play the game as in rotating and such now
Aces#1239: 1v1 is just constant stress and whiffing
dtracers#9598: rotating is very very important in solo standard
GooseFairy#6680: 1v1 is where you start to collect a bag of tricks
dtracers#9598: you can win on just rotating until diamond 2
Edwin.#7531: And that's where I'm kinda at rn
dtracers#9598: in solo standard
dtracers#9598: i feel like standard is different.
Edwin.#7531: In solo queue normal standard
dtracers#9598: And 2s is different too
Edwin.#7531: I love 2s, it's just that I don't rlly have a teamm8 to play with
Aces#1239: 2s is also stress
GooseFairy#6680: 2s is my favorite
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GooseFairy#6680: ;p
GooseFairy#6680: I play really passive and ive got a friend that has really solid offense so he does the scoring and I clean up their clears
GooseFairy#6680: it's perfect
GooseFairy#6680: ;p
Edwin.#7531: I had a friend I was a perfect duo with, but then he quit RL, and I kinda stopped with 2s, I only play other games with him now
GooseFairy#6680: just make a bot good enough to be your teammate
GooseFairy#6680: ☑
Aces#1239: See, I can totally imagine how awful it would be if it were me playing with me
GooseFairy#6680: same
Aces#1239: Just consistently letting the myself go first for every save
Andrew#5454: I recommend kevperts elite aerial control drills
Andrew#5454: Got me to champ in 3s
Andrew#5454: I mostly just do the slaloms though
dtracers#9598: i need to get back to the slaloms. Those were great!
Andrew#5454: Barely do the freestyles and reverse gravity
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Andrew#5454: Gravity is broken now too lol
Silh#0320: The difference between a good game and a bad game, win or lose—whether the game was hard fought because you were fighting against the opposing team, or you were fighting against your own team.
Tangil#3830: That's very true and a very nice quote that I'm stealing
Silh#0320: 😃
GooseFairy#6680: yay diamond 1
GooseFairy#6680: lol
dtracers#9598: NICE congrats!
Edwin.#7531: I'm diamond 2 now
Edwin.#7531: I should kinda make champ, but don't think that'll hallppen
JPK314#4412: I hit champ 3 yesterday
Edwin.#7531: That's high
JPK314#4412: if I can hit champ 3 then you can hit champ
JPK314#4412: I believe
GooseFairy#6680: I feel like I've played with you before jpk
GooseFairy#6680: are you use?
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JPK314#4412: ye
GooseFairy#6680: hmmm
GooseFairy#6680: I remember your name but idk if it's just because you've been around here or if I've actually seen you in game
JPK314#4412: yeah unsure
GooseFairy#6680: if I did remember you from a game, you did a wall to air dribble that made my team salty in teamspeak
GooseFairy#6680: lol
JPK314#4412: sounds like me
dtracers#9598: im still diamond 2 in solo standard.
Pretty close to diamond 3 just wavering between div 3 and div 4
Andrew#5454: you should just solo queue regular standard
Andrew#5454: im champ there and diamond 2 in solo haha
Andrew#5454: similar games played in both
Andrew#5454: and i feel the gameplay is pretty similar
dtracers#9598: its actually really funny i was diamond 3 in standard (from playing with a team) and diamond 1 in solo standard.
Now I am almost plat in regular standard and diamond 2 in solo standard. Idk why it is but it feels very different for me.
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Andrew#5454: oh wow
Andrew#5454: you are like my opposite haha
Andrew#5454: i think most people i talk to end up higher in regular standard though
GooseFairy#6680: just saw someone pull off an ariel pool shot to win in ot
tarehart#6423: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/390369038754381826/character_disneyprincess_ariel_262253c9.png
GooseFairy#6680: heck
Andrew#5454: spelling
Edwin.#7531: Anyone with a switch over here?
drssoccer55#6192: I wish.
Edwin.#7531: RL is just 15 atm
drssoccer55#6192: The switch is a little more expensive though 😃
ccman32#4022: lel
Edwin.#7531: That's true
Tangil#3830: dropshot is amazing
Tangil#3830: anyone up for some dropshot?
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dtracers#9598: I can play some
dtracers#9598: But I think you know how that will go :P
Tangil#3830: lol
Silh#0320: Hmm. So the next bot tourney should be dropshot then... 😏
Tangil#3830: 😮
Tangil#3830: i'd be up for that haha
Silh#0320: I'd like to see that. 😃
Silh#0320: And given my pathetic aerial skills, those bots would probably beat me very handily...
dtracers#9598: I think the next tournament should not be 1v1 but something else. :)
Tangil#3830: well theres 1v1, 2v2, and 1v1 ML
axelalex2#5793: Midseason Mayhem? 🤔
Tangil#3830: 😮
Edwin.#7531: Chaotic bots ;)
Edwin.#7531: Maybe 4v4 will become structured with bots, but don't think so 😂
Silh#0320: Ahh, yes, the post-sale influx of new players always makes things interesting...
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Silh#0320: (+/- extra spare time during holidays)
Tangil#3830: anyone wanna relieve my solo cure pain?
Aces#1239: ha, saw you were playing but didn;t have my phone on me so didn't check discord
Tangil#3830: Darn
axelalex2#5793: so this is me ... xD https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/398988202603446274/2018-01-06-005443_scrot.png
ccman32#4022: pfff
ccman32#4022: lol
ccman32#4022: in the meanwhile i struggle for over a month to get plat rewards 🤔
axelalex2#5793: it's not to show off my ranks, but rather, that i cannot play 1s at all xD
axelalex2#5793: like, is there someone else, who has similar ranks?
Andrew#5454: i dont think that's that uncommon
Andrew#5454: champ in 3s and diamond 3 div 3 in 2s
Andrew#5454: barely made diamond 1s
twobackfromtheend#1471: some time ago earlier last year i was diamond 3 in standard, plat 3 in doubles, and gold 2 in solo standard. And the thing is, I always solo queue, most of the time queuing all 3 of the playlists.
twobackfromtheend#1471: (and I don't play 1v1s)
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ccman32#4022: 🤔
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/398991348578910218/unknown.png
axelalex2#5793: These translations could be better; "zwanglos"; i remember "Lebe jetzt" xD
ccman32#4022: more like "you suck", "you suck even more", "stop playing"
ccman32#4022: i feel like i play waaaaaaaaaay better than these retards yet they score 1 lucky goal after another while i hit the goalpost 3 times in a row
ccman32#4022: some cant even fly but score 3 kickoff goals in a row and im done
axelalex2#5793: i also don't like it, if people can score from kickoffs regularily, but that means they are better at it then me
ccman32#4022: https://i.gyazo.com/101fd0a09b06a8d133dcda81abee30c7.gif
ccman32#4022: i fuckin' swear 75% of all enemy goals today are kickoff goals
Andrew#5454: lol kickoff goals are my #1 type of goal in 1v1
ccman32#4022: there should be a shield on the goal like spawn protections in shooter games for a few seconds
ccman32#4022: check out these 7 minutes of pure cancer
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/399000441914130433/2CB113DF45272052638B8C905DDF7BCC.replay
ccman32#4022: my personal fav moments are 2:51 and the last 10 seconds before overtime
nitro.#6461: Discord 🅱roke https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/399001527009804305/unknown.png
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ccman32#4022: lul
twobackfromtheend#1471: https://rocketleaguestats.com/profile/steam/76561198090065205 look at my season 4 ranks
ccman32#4022: ok
ccman32#4022: if you look at this
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/399004308089077761/A58E918D4EEDB89E34D1E2AA9810C292.replay
nitro.#6461: im gud https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/399004742296272897/unknown.png
twobackfromtheend#1471: kick off goal. check.
nitro.#6461: 168 fucking matches
twobackfromtheend#1471: apparently I have to sit through 3 minutes of saves now
ccman32#4022: exactly
ccman32#4022: 3mins of fighting just to fucking fail like shit at the end anyway
twobackfromtheend#1471: @nitro you should probably try practicing and doing the training more. if you actually want to improve that is
nitro.#6461: well I like to play with bronze people https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/399005387157798952/unknown.png
nitro.#6461: s5 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/399005431143333888/unknown.png
twobackfromtheend#1471: uhhh
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twobackfromtheend#1471: 🤔
twobackfromtheend#1471: @ccman32 do I have to sit through this
ccman32#4022: yes.
twobackfromtheend#1471: it's painful. there's a reason I've played like all of 3 ones games the past year
ccman32#4022: like 3:15
twobackfromtheend#1471: yes that was when I asked the question
nitro.#6461: @ccman32 whats your region and main language?
ccman32#4022: german(y)
twobackfromtheend#1471: yeah I'm done. finallyyy
twobackfromtheend#1471: ones is just so tilting
nitro.#6461: thats why i play with bronze people
nitro.#6461: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
twobackfromtheend#1471: I like being able to whiff and not be punished.
ccman32#4022: and now check that other replay
nitro.#6461: bye bye
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nitro.#6461: good night
ccman32#4022: the last second before overtime is enough to watch xD @twobackfromtheend
ccman32#4022: lol fuck this
ccman32#4022: I'll get down to bronze
twobackfromtheend#1471: @ccman32 did you save the one at 2:55?!
ccman32#4022: huh?
twobackfromtheend#1471: the ball was basically heading towards his goal already
twobackfromtheend#1471: then you cleared it against your crossbar ><
ccman32#4022: yep
twobackfromtheend#1471: whew.
twobackfromtheend#1471: :seismiHUG:
twobackfromtheend#1471: I'm not sure if I've had a single win this season
twobackfromtheend#1471: now this is actually bullshit https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/399023864891310090/DBECF2EF4C006CE4FD0DE2BDAB78B7C0.replay
ccman32#4022: a bronze just won against me with kickoff goals aahahahahahhhahaa
Tangil#3830: Wait what
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axelalex2#5793: how did you play against a bronze?
dtracers#9598: @ccman32 if you are playing a bronze then stay in goal during kickoffs
Tangil#3830: If you're playing a bronze then get out of bronze kappa
axelalex2#5793: i just had opponent saying he was a garbage collector, carrying his shitty teammates; who did write one that advanced Java-Bot to play online?
dtracers#9598: there are no bots that play online
ccman32#4022: there are
axelalex2#5793: i know, his choice of words was just funny
nitro.#6461: :Thinking3D:
ccman32#4022: ^^
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/399253811841073182/unknown.png
ccman32#4022: lololo
axelalex2#5793: how?
ccman32#4022: because that mode sucks? lel
Tangil#3830: Ah man I like 1v1
ccman32#4022: 😄
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Tangil#3830: I suck at it though
Brom#0758: Guilty confession, I've done that too
Brom#0758: Deranking in duel to smash inexperienced players
Brom#0758: Bahahaha
ccman32#4022: the thing is
ccman32#4022: i dont even get to play against inexperienced players lol
ccman32#4022: every 2nd enemy is unranked and plays like gold/plat
ccman32#4022: so I ain't even getting out of bronze again lol
dtracers#9598: because of others that have done that
ccman32#4022: xD
ccman32#4022: this whole ranking system is such a lie lol
ccman32#4022: some matches ago i suddenly started ranking down and up almost entire ranks between silver and plat for some reason
ccman32#4022: not in 1v1 tho
ccman32#4022: im getting unranked enemies that are diamond in other modes
ccman32#4022: as bronze XDDDD
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ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/399371989682356247/unknown.png
ccman32#4022: this matchmaking ahahahahhaha
Brom#0758: Ahh, is it a new season?
ccman32#4022: nah? @Brom
ccman32#4022: still the same one like the past few months, why?
ccman32#4022: not sure if its season 6 or 7 or 8 right now, no clue xD
Brom#0758: Ahh, damn
Brom#0758: Finally getting to play again though :D
ccman32#4022: gg im losing against silver 1 lol
Edwin.#7531: At least your 2s rank isnt as shitty
Aces#1239: You should play less solo duel. Like a lot less. Specifically none at all.
ccman32#4022: i swear there is a curse on that mode
ccman32#4022: i cant even easily win against bronze noobs
GooseFairy#6680: solo duel best mode
GooseFairy#6680: ☑
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Tangil#3830: I feel like duels is the only mode where the only progress you make is your own, which feels great when you rank up
Tangil#3830: It's hard but it's the most rewarding
GooseFairy#6680: ^
Aces#1239: Idk, if you play the other modes as an actual team you can have a lot more fun and still feel like you’re winning because of actual skill
axelalex2#5793: i like 2s, because you train technique, positioning and teamplay at the same time
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/400008167469088778/unknown.png
ccman32#4022: i love the players in this game
GooseFairy#6680: pretty sure everyone should know by now that the player level doesn't exactly indicate player skill
Edwin.#7531: Thats just toxic
ccman32#4022: just toxic?
ccman32#4022: i thought this is normal
Tangil#3830: Nah
Edwin.#7531: I didnt mean just in the way you probably read it 😛 I meant it as in why would you do it, its useless and only toxic, 4-3 isnt ezpz btw
ccman32#4022: i rarely ever get enemies that arent like this lol
Tangil#3830: This is toxic af
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Edwin.#7531: Lol thats probably the rank then
Edwin.#7531: They get to hear that in the next game as well probably then
ccman32#4022: literally 1 match later
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/400009321162997761/unknown.png
ccman32#4022: 2 kickoff goals so far
Edwin.#7531: 😦
Tangil#3830: I like to think that in Rocket League there is no luck. All the success and failure is of my own accord.
GooseFairy#6680: ^
Tangil#3830: Like if I score, the other team isn't unlucky, just bad formation or whatever
Tangil#3830: If they score, they're not lucky and I'm not unlucky, it's my fault
ccman32#4022: now 4 kickoff goals and 1 goal across half the map
Edwin.#7531: Sometimes 'calculated'goals can be luck though
ccman32#4022: i cant stand this shit anymore
Edwin.#7531: I would play a game with you if I would be able to :/
Edwin.#7531: But schools going first 😦
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Tangil#3830: I consider even kickoff goals not luck
GooseFairy#6680: lol just play against reliefbot or something
Tangil#3830: Cause there's an optimal way to do everything in this game
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/400010367285198848/unknown.png
axelalex2#5793: If you go for a 50/50 not covering your goal, and the ball goes straight into your net, that's not lucky
Tangil#3830: ^
ccman32#4022: I dont even know what that means
ccman32#4022: 😂
Tangil#3830: When challenging the ball, be in a position where you can recover
Tangil#3830: Don't go for the ball when the opponent has possession and they can just lob it over you, etc
ccman32#4022: that means i would end up camping in my own goal
Tangil#3830: Nope
Tangil#3830: Because their miss if your possession
ccman32#4022: every single match so far began with an enemy kickoff goal in the first 5 seconds
Tangil#3830: They try to get into your net, you save and start the offence
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ccman32#4022: literally every single one
Tangil#3830: That's not luck, just improve kickoffs
ccman32#4022: i dont see what one could do wrong about that
Tangil#3830: Fast kickoffs?
axelalex2#5793: Reserve some boost
Tangil#3830: Fast kickoffs are great for defeating silvers
Tangil#3830: Also, don't boost if you're already at supersonic
ccman32#4022: I've tried waiting a split second
ccman32#4022: i tried jumping early
ccman32#4022: jumping late
ccman32#4022: whatever, nothing works
dtracers#9598: just stay in goal
dtracers#9598: silvers can't dribble
Tangil#3830: @ccman32 learn fast kickoffs
Tangil#3830: Also try what @dtracers said
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ccman32#4022: silvers cant dribble????
Tangil#3830: Yeah they suck man
Tangil#3830: (At dribbling)
Tangil#3830: I'm in gold I should know haha
Tangil#3830: Cause I suck too
axelalex2#5793: boost reservation is also important; if you get a dead ball at kickoff, you can gain ball control faster, or in case the opponent gets the ball, make a better defense play
ccman32#4022: man i got outplayed by these guys countless times
ccman32#4022: they either can dribble or those arent silvers
ccman32#4022: but its weird because every 1 or 2 of 10 matches the enemy seems like super easy and i get 10+ goals in 1 match
ccman32#4022: and then again its difficult af
Tangil#3830: Silver is the new diamond
dtracers#9598: I think that is what happens when people just play 2s
dtracers#9598: i know i am diamond 3 in twos and plat 1 in 1s
dtracers#9598: sometimes i can school people really really badly
ccman32#4022: i think the matchmaking is just trolling me lol
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Tangil#3830: Yeah the mindset for 1s is completely different to everything else
dtracers#9598: and other times i get schooled
axelalex2#5793: Playing RL on your own is cursed anyways. 1s suck balls, and in team modes you usually get salty idiots.
ccman32#4022: best was that one unranked guy who was diamond in doubles
ccman32#4022: when i was silver 1
ccman32#4022: XD
ccman32#4022: how
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/400015155045335042/5DCF7D064F544A6AFFC2BFAC300DFEA3.replay
Tangil#3830: When I get access to my RL pc I wanna see these replays
Tangil#3830: Because there's no way silvers can dribble
Tangil#3830: I wanna be impressed by silvers haha
axelalex2#5793: well, he played better
axelalex2#5793: you can play faster by dodging forward, especially on your way back without a lot of boost
Tangil#3830: Dodge diagonally while boosting when not boosting downwards for maximum acceleration
axelalex2#5793: true, but first, he needs to dodge at all :D
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Tangil#3830: Wait what
ccman32#4022: i play rl since almost 2 years, i know that XD
axelalex2#5793: i don't remember him getting into sonic speed by dodging only in this replay
Tangil#3830: I haven't played Rocket League in like a week, but guessing from my muscle memory when imitating a controller (lol), I dodge with boost every time I want to go fast
Tangil#3830: I think that's what you should do if you're not already doing that
ccman32#4022: i dodge when boost is empty
ccman32#4022: unless the target location is very close
Tangil#3830: You should diagonally dodge most of the times
ccman32#4022: i never do that
Tangil#3830: And if you have boost, use it while dodging
Tangil#3830: Unless you're reserving it
ccman32#4022: to randomly fly around?
Tangil#3830: Lol why
Tangil#3830: To go fast
ccman32#4022: boost+dodge=bad idea?
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ccman32#4022: how are u gonna boost while turning around
Tangil#3830: Powerslide to turn, then dodge diag+boost
axelalex2#5793: do you still have default controls?
Tangil#3830: Boost+dodge=best idea
Tangil#3830: Are you using a controller?
ccman32#4022: well i never play with controller
Tangil#3830: :/
Tangil#3830: This still applies though
GooseFairy#6680: I don't play with a controller ;p
Tangil#3830: Heretics be burned at ye stake
GooseFairy#6680: 1v1 me
GooseFairy#6680: ;p
Tangil#3830: I would if I had RL ;-;
GooseFairy#6680: wat
Sweaty Urbanwankermandickhead#0800: wat
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GooseFairy#6680: how do you not have it
Tangil#3830: Don't have access to RL pc atm
GooseFairy#6680: rip
Sweaty Urbanwankermandickhead#0800: o okie
Tangil#3830: Also exams :/
GooseFairy#6680: exams on january 8th
GooseFairy#6680: hmmm
GooseFairy#6680: ur not in the US
Tangil#3830: I should be revising damn it
Tangil#3830: Nah not in the us
GooseFairy#6680: lol
Tangil#3830: Also not real exams, mock exams
Tangil#3830: But still important
Aces#1239: Speaking of which, anyone up for some casual queuing? I’m five for six on standard ranked and want to quit while I’m ahead 👍🏻
axelalex2#5793: here
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Aces#1239: Sweet five secs
Aces#1239: Yo redox finish your exams already I need someone I can play with and not feel guilty when I suck
Aces#1239: Which is far too often for ranked
axelalex2#5793: shouldn't you feel even more guilty, when losing while you have a higher rank? 🤔
Aces#1239: Nope.
Aces#1239: Fact.
Tangil#3830: Last exam on the 19th mate :/
Tangil#3830: Gonna be waiting a while
Aces#1239: Spawned into a game, literally 5 seconds in some guy says “what’s your deal aces?”. I of course, being a sensible human, ignore him. He says it again and I get offended. “Wtf are you on about m8?”.
Aces#1239: “What’s your paint called?”
Aces#1239: Oh. He said decal. Now I feel bad.
dtracers#9598: ahhhh :/
Aces#1239: I was pretty surprised someone was having a go 5 seconds into a casual game.
twobackfromtheend#1471: hahahahaha
twobackfromtheend#1471: that's what rocket league has made us all. we were born in the salt, moulded by it. we didnt see the light until we were already diamond. then, it was nothing to us but blinding :seismiHUG:
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Tangil#3830: Truly poetic
Tangil#3830: When I rank from gold to plat, will I finally see the light?
Andrew#5454: lol itll probably get worse
Sweaty Urbanwankermandickhead#0800: the higher you rise in ranks, the worse you think you are
Silh#0320: If you ever saved some replays from when you first started playing, you can always go back and watch those...
Silh#0320: (And facepalm at everything) 😛
ccman32#4022: xD
Tangil#3830: @ccman32 just watched the replay, i'd say you're pretty good
Tangil#3830: it's just you need to dodge more to gain speed and stuff like that
Tangil#3830: on a side note: anyone up for a game?
ccman32#4022: ye theres just a few mistakes i always do but i didnt figure out which ones yet XD
ccman32#4022: first good game I've had in a while lol
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/401414809763184640/AC5D83CC4C8001BFC080B392326447F8.replay
Aces#1239: Soz redox I be busy “socialising”
Tangil#3830: Darn
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Tangil#3830: Well I gotta revise for this week's exam now, rest in pepperoni my Rocket League
twobackfromtheend#1471: my rocket league has been resting in pepperoni for 6 months now. probably play at a high plat level now, down from my heights of being a generally above average player in diamond 3 (and rising) 😦
ccman32#4022: oh how bad
ccman32#4022: not like im barely plat 1
ccman32#4022: 😆
Tangil#3830: Yo anyone in Gold or below needs to watch this: https://youtu.be/2aZA-NCRRgI
Tangil#3830: I never knew this had a name, but it's so useful
axelalex2#5793: "Turning away when you defend so it's easier to guide the ball into the corner rather than seeking a 50/50 which will most likely backfire"
ccman32#4022: lol
ccman32#4022: why does every single tutorial video nowadays need these totally not funny comedy aspects 😆
Tangil#3830: They're interesting
Tangil#3830: Funny is a subjective quality
ccman32#4022: I wouldn't call this interesting, but hey at least from 1:15 to 7:20 its a very useful video 😃
Tangil#3830: Ye
Tangil#3830: I've always done it subconsciously but seeing someone else do it is super helpful
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Aces#1239: Cannot stress enough how important the idea of only doing it as the last man is
Aces#1239: Also, not to try and do it from a retreat
Tangil#3830: Ye otherwise you slow down your whole team and the enemy gets more into your own half
Aces#1239: If your team mate sees you retreating, they expect you to end up behind them, so will move forward. You’ll then make a shitty attempt at a save, ruin your boost, and be out of position for the clear
Skyborg#0894: anyone up for some 'curing'?
ccman32#4022: what exactly?
ccman32#4022: i could stop working on the dll a bit and play
Skyborg#0894: curing solo queue, do you want to join me?
ccman32#4022: i can
Skyborg#0894: nice
http://steamcommunity.com/id/skyborgff/
ccman32#4022: well that was quite horrible
Tangil#3830: Haha what happened
ccman32#4022: lost like 5 ranked matches in a row
ccman32#4022: @Skyborg most would work
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ccman32#4022: stop this now
ccman32#4022: i have a painful headache
Skyborg#0894: sorry ahahha
ccman32#4022: didnt say its your fault xD
Skyborg#0894: well, i didn't helped either
Tangil#3830: Is it a rank difference between you two?
ccman32#4022: hes mostly a bit lower i think
ccman32#4022: like 0,5 leagues
Tangil#3830: Or maybe you guys just have different playstyles
Skyborg#0894: yeah, 5 divisions mostly
Tangil#3830: Ah
ccman32#4022: well we cant teamplay much
Tangil#3830: That's not much
Tangil#3830: Did you guys try to communicate with voice? It helps so much
Tangil#3830: Cause whenever I play with text it's less teamplay
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ccman32#4022: i dont even have a headset plugged in heh
Skyborg#0894: no, we could try next time, and it would be easier that typing my dumb questions 😛
Tangil#3830: I definitely recommend voice
ccman32#4022: nah first dont start with ranked matches instantly when i didnt even play a match before
ccman32#4022: always a horrible idea
ccman32#4022: when i start ranked without any kind of warmup i fk up almost all the time
Tangil#3830: Yeah I always play a casual match or two to warm up and to check my ping
Tangil#3830: Tbh if you wanna rank up, it goes a long way to find a partner(s) that you can be compatible with
Tangil#3830: Sometimes playstyles just click
Tangil#3830: But randoms are fine as long as you can tolerate them not rotating and ball chasing
ccman32#4022: dafug lol
ccman32#4022: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/373900457845850112/401786417023549441/unknown.png
ccman32#4022: 😂
ccman32#4022: @Tangil i had 1-2 people to do that but dont play with them anymore
ccman32#4022: and now i basically lose almost everything
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ccman32#4022: at least in ranked
Skyborg#0894: ok, so next time ill put unranked first, my bad
Aces#1239: I am always surprised by the number of teamed pairs I come across who aren’t communicating at all
Skyborg#0894: i found a guy in 1v1, and we both climbed the ranks playing as a team, we could play as a team but didn't comunicated, but i believe that if we did we could be much better.
Aces#1239: Tbh I have no idea what the doubles meta is, but I suspect it probably involves communication
Andrew#5454: doubles meta is ball chasing
Andrew#5454: lol
Skyborg#0894: and bumping the teammate
axelalex2#5793: playing the tactics: "if we don't know, what we are doing, the opponent cannot know, too"
Aces#1239: You stop playing for a couple of months and the world around you gets so much better at this game
Aces#1239: Could everyone just agree to take a two week break at the same time please
Tangil#3830: Or like the world takes a break except me k thnx
Aces#1239: My position in any playlist is just broken now. Either I get destroyed in standard because I haven’t got the technical skills, or try solo standard where everyone who was at my level is now way above me
Aces#1239: I have realised diamond players suck at putting up an attack for anything longer than a single rotation. It doesn’t matter how good you are at being a third, because nobody is going to be there for your pass
ccman32#4022: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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ccman32#4022: I just had to say this
Aces#1239: Should definitely change the name of this thread to solo queue therapy
Brom#0758: There is no cure for solo queue
GooseFairy#6680: let us believe
GooseFairy#6680: ;-;
Brom#0758: I want to believe too... it's just...
Brom#0758: How many thousands have had their hopes crushed by solo queue?
Brom#0758: When will it stop?
axelalex2#5793: i have not, because i have no hopes
dtracers#9598: There is a cure
dtracers#9598: It's to only play with teammates
axelalex2#5793: i have neither a team, nor mates FeelsBadMan
Brom#0758: same same
dtracers#9598: I think you two will make a pair then
Brom#0758: Except it would be nice to be in the same league, which I don't think is the case 😛
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Brom#0758: I'm just plat-diamond
Aces#1239: Yeah the patrons of this chat are too few to develop such teams 😦
ccman32#4022: "just" @Brom
ccman32#4022: most people i know that play rl aren't even gold
Aces#1239: Might be up for some casual queuing later
Brom#0758: Yeah, but I think I remember alex being way beyond my level
Aces#1239: I swear everyone I know playing RL is champ xD
ccman32#4022: i only know 1 who is
dtracers#9598: I'm like 2 games from champ
Aces#1239: I finally got D3 the other day
Aces#1239: So much grind
ccman32#4022: unbelievable
ccman32#4022: how much time do people spend in this game
axelalex2#5793: i'm C2 in 2s
Brom#0758: But either way I have 1600 hours on record
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ccman32#4022: i have 500
Brom#0758: And considering that, I'm not particularly good
Aces#1239: I’d be far further along but I took like a sixth month break last year
Aces#1239: 750?
ccman32#4022: i just started a solo match
ccman32#4022: wtf is wrong with me
Brom#0758: @ccman32 don't do it
Aces#1239: Should play casual solo, it’s great
Aces#1239: (It isnt)
Brom#0758: I like people who leave casual games
Brom#0758: They make those games so much fun
Aces#1239: Yeah casual 3s is mostly unplayable
Aces#1239: But you have to believe that the MMR penalty is enough to eventually remove them from your level
ccman32#4022: i cant even win a damn solo match in silver 2
ccman32#4022: this mode is worse than dying from cancer
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